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Fischer: God Honors Those Who Inflict “Massive Casualties” Because “Christianity is Not a Religion of Pacifism”

19 November 2010 13 Comments Email This Post Email This Post

Fischer says inflicting “massive casualites” is Christian. He cites massacres in the Old Testament as his proof. Does this mean Christianity is a violent religion that supports massacres? Imagine if a Muslim had said what Fisher said.

Fischer: God Honors Those Who Inflict “Massive Casualties” Because “Christianity is Not a Religion of Pacifism”

(Right-wing Watch)

Bryan Fischer responds to the latest outrage he has provoked with his recent blog post decrying “the  feminization of the Medal of Honor.”

As he typically does in these situations, Fischer reacts by accusing everyone else of intentionally misrepresenting his point and then proceeds to “clarify” it by reiterating his position in such a way that it makes the extent of his extremism all the more obvious, as if the problem was that somehow people just misunderstood him the first time.

And so we end up with posts like this in which he explains that all he was saying was that we as a nation need to start honoring soldiers who kill lots of people because such actions are greatly pleasing to God:

The Scriptures certainly know nothing of such squeamishness. Remember what drove King Saul into a jealous rage was when the women of Israel commemorated David’s exploits in song:

“Saul has struck down his thousands, and David his ten thousands” (1 Samuel 18:7).

And this was not the last of David’s exploits in just wars. He went down to the town of Keilah where he “fought with the Philistines and brought away their livestock and struck them with a great blow” (1 Samuel 23:5).

Then he went after the Amalekites, and we are told that “David struck them down from twilight until the evening of the next day, and not a man of them escaped, except four hundred young men who mounted camels and fled” (1 Samuel 30:17).

Again, “David did as the LORD commanded him, and struck down the Philistines from Geba to Gezer” (2 Samuel 5:25).

Further we read in 2 Samuel 8, “David defeated the Philistines and subdued them…he defeated Moab…David also defeated Hadadezer the son of Rehob, king of Zobah…David struck down 22,000 men of the Syrians…and the LORD gave victory to David everywhere he went…and David made a name for himself when he returned from striking down 18,000 Edomites in the Valley of Salt…and the LORD gave victory to David wherever he went” (vv. 1,2,3,5,6,13,14).

And this, remember, was “the man after (God’s) heart” (1 Samuel 13:14).

Christianity is not a religion of pacifism. Remember that John the Baptist did not tell the soldiers who came to him to lay down their arms, even when they asked him directly, “what shall we do?” (Luke 3:14).

War is certainly a terrible thing, and should only be waged for the highest and most just of causes. But if the cause is just, then there is great honor in achieving military success, success which should be celebrated and rewarded.

The bottom line here is that the God of the Bible clearly honors those who show valor and gallantry in waging aggressive war in a just cause against the enemies of freedom, even while inflicting massive casualties in the process. What I’m saying is that it’s time we started imitating God’s example again.

I guess you could say that Fischer is more of a Psalm 137 Christian than a Matthew 5 Christian.

Original post: Fischer: God Honors Those Who Inflict “Massive Casualties” Because “Christianity is Not a Religion of Pacifism”


  1. I’m thinking of a compound word. The second part is “hole.”

    Not to mention, he’s a bit of a dullard. Does he not realize the Old Testament pre-dates Christianity?

  2. Has he ever read Matthew 5:38-48? Jesus told us to “turn the other cheek”, “love you neighbor”. My God sent God’s only son to die for our sins, not to give us permission to wage “holy wars”.

  3. that is not the case at all, the whole basis of Christianity is pure love, actually GOD gets angry when you use hate in his name, so that is completely wrong. and I agree with the person above, that is the people before GOD’s love … it’s funny how the “know it all’s” always smug Christianity, but what they say is wrong.

  4. I guess this is the kind sort of thing we can expect from people who follow people who made it up as they went along. Yes the Jews of the old testament used God as an excuse to kill and steal other people’s land. That does not justify criminal behavior in the present. Most of the war crimes of history were justified in this way.
    If you only take the sayings of Jesus this is not justification for breaking the two most important commandments. Look it up.

  5. The good pastor is a Cafeteria Christian. He just chooses the parts he likes — like stoning your children for impudence or wearing clothes of mixed fibers or shaving. DAMN! I just noticed he shaved!

  6. The Old Testament is pre-Christian. The Crusades support his premise better, not only the ones against Islam, but the ones against ‘heretical’ Christians, or the Protestant/Catholic and vice-versa wars, or the Conquistadors in America, on and on. But it’s not the religion that’s war-like, but the people who use it as an excuse to make war. To me, if you don’t (at least try to)love others and treat them like you want to be treated, then you’re not Christian, no matter what you claim. You can preach and profess, but if you don’t practice, you don’t qualify.

  7. what part of “thou shalt not kill” is he a little murky on???

  8. That is why God send Jesus to us was to stop the violence and help everyone live together. WHAT YOU DO TO THE LEAST OF MY BREATHERN, THAT YOU DO UNTO ME”. Christianity is a nonviolent way of life.

  9. Just another person filled with hate for his fellow man. This is what this world has come to…………………..SAD !

  10. David was chosen by HIM to lead his men and win the wars he was engaged into. Hence; all the biblical wars had benefitted mankind which the religion perceptions now differ from the First Testament. It is the belief of many Christians that which ever Country wins the next World War, God’s blessings surround it…and because the United States have been leading other nations in providing needed help to people of the world, it is this country that shall be fully blessed mysteriously by GOD not to suffer when the time comes.

  11. Whenever Christians want to justify aggression genocide and mass murder– “just war” in their parlance — they quote extensively from the Old Testament and then claim that “Christianity is not a religion of pacifism.”
    When representing Christianity, wouldn’t it make more sense to quote the Christ? They would hardly find ample justification for bloodshed there, with all of Jesus’ quotes about turning the other cheek and doing unto others as you would have them do unto you. Jesus was the Prince of Peace who urged us to love our neighbor as ourselves, but the fundamentalists have turned him into a tribal god of war — IN THEIR OWN IMAGE

  12. For many shall come in My name, saying I am the Christ [that is, that Jesus was in fact the Christ], and shall deceive many …. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; in so much that if it were possible, THEY SHALL DECEIVE THE VERY ELECT� (Mat. 24:4-5).
    Even the bible warns of these people. This guy is a prime example of the above statement.

  13. It cannot be denied that the Old Testament of the Bible is full of atrocities. And Christianity has had a checkered past. But a critical examination of the teachings of Jesus shows that He condemns violence. Christianity has gone through a reformation, repudiating the violent acts of the past. (Yes, there are always a few loose canons who mar the picture). Islam also has a checkered past, but it also has a checkered present. Even if only half of the reports of cruelties done by Muslims to minorities in the Middle East are true, that is the antithesis to a people who say they are following a religion of peace. Can there be reformation in Islam?

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