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On Gaffney’s Radio Show, Rep. King Suggests Muslims Aren’t American

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On point piece from Sarah Posner, another writer who was an extraordinary “anti-Loon” in 2010. It goes to show that despite all of Rep. King’s protestations that his hearings are innocent of bigotry his statements prove otherwise.

On Gaffney’s Radio Show, Rep. King Suggests Muslims Aren’t American

by Sarah Posner (Religion Dispatches)

Lee Fang at Think Progress reports that Rep. Peter King (R-NY), chair of the House Homeland Security Committee who plans on holding hearings on the “radicalization” of American Muslims, said on Frank Gaffney’s radio program last week that Muslims aren’t real Americans in combatting terrorism:

Joining anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist Frank Gaffney on Gaffney’s radio program last week, King doubled down on his promise to launch a witch-hunt against Muslims. He repeated a falsehood that he stated earlier — that American Muslims never cooperate to combat terrorism. But in addition to this claim, King made the extraordinary smear that American Muslims aren’t “American” when it comes to war. “[W]hen a war begins,” King said, every ethnic and religious group unites as “Americans.” “But in this case,” King continued, referring to Muslims, “this is not the situation. … Whether it’s cultural tradition, whatever, the fact is the Muslim community does not cooperate anywhere near to the extent that it should.”

As I reported last week, Gaffney has disgusted some conservatives with his anti-Muslim bigotry; one Muslim conservative activist, Suhail Khan, told me that is why Gaffney has beenexcluded from next month’s Conservative Political Action Conference. Yet that doesn’t stop CPAC from including a group like the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which supportsFront Page magazine, which has promotedGaffney’s work, including Gaffney’s smear of Khan.

As King’s willingness to appear on Gaffney’s radio show and affirm his notions that Muslims can’t be real Americans shows, Gaffney is not the pariah some in CPAC might contend he is. By way of another example, as I reported, Gaffney was appointed to the advisory board of the Clarion Fund, whose Islamophobic propaganda films have been promoted by current and former elected officials and the Republican Jewish Committee, and which plans to screen its latest documentary, Iranium, to lawmakers early next month.

Gaffney has been peddling the bogus claim that shari’ah law represents a real threat to the Constitution, and has called on Congress to “investigate” that as well. He employs someone who believes being Muslim should be criminalized. He brought that dog and pony show to Capitol Hill late last year for the benefit of House staffers, and spoke to a room of about 50 people. It surely is a deeply troubling development that King is cavorting with Gaffney and pontificating about the “Americanism” of American Muslims, in light of Gaffney’s agitation about fifth columns of shari’ah proponents bent on undermining the Constitution.

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  1. Edward James Olmos at the United Nations Battlestar Galactica Summit (Apr 2009). “I still find it incredible that we still use word “race” as a cultural determinant… I detest what we’ve done to ourselves. Out of a need to make ourselves different from one another, we’ve made the word “race” a way of expressing culture. There’s no such thing… I just heard one of the most prolific statements done by one of the great humanitarians, he’s really trying to organize and bring us together, and he used the word “race” as if there is a Latino race, an Asian race, an indigenous race, a Caucasian race. There’s no such thing as a Latino race. There never has been. There never will be. There’s only one race, and that’s what the show brought out. That is the human race, period.”

  2. America is a Christian country. Let’s get that fact out there. God, Country, Family – In that order. The problem comes up when God is a different thing to different people. A bigger problem comes up when God or Allah become the impetus for damaging another’s God, Country, or Family.

    There isn’t a war against Islam by Americans. There is a war BY Islam AGAINST Americans. When people start identifying themselves as Muslims first, they are saying that their order of preference is: Allah, Country, Family, which is fine. But when those same individuals push the definition and start saying that the rest of us have to ascribe to YOUR Allah, YOUR Country based in Allah, and YOUR definition of Family from Allah, then Christians, non-Christians of course start to wonder whether YOUR country based in Allah is really America.

  3. I disagree, Stan, and I believe that most historians would agree that the United States was not founded on Christianity. They were deists. For example, of Washington: “In regard to the subject of your inquiry, truth requires me to say that Gen. Washington never received the communion in the churches of which I am the parochial minister.” Yes, he was a Mason, yes, he believed in the existence of a Deity, but a Christian? no.
    Both Jefferson & Franklin roundly dismissed the Bible’s miracles and attempted the edit out the “folly for the credulous” that infested these books, in their opinion. Strangely it was a return to belief that followed after the bank failures after the Civil War that gave us our Protestants today. Oh, & Lincoln? Quite an atheist, based on his words and reports around him.

  4. Stan:

    The US is *not* a Christian country, and this is expressly stated as such by the founding fathers in the Treaty of Tripoli (1797):

    Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims),—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

  5. Who is telling you that you have to ascribe to Allah or Islam, Stan? Where are all the Muslims trying to cram Islam down everyone’s throat? Where is Islam trying to take over anything? I live around Muslims and I do not see this at all. I grew up with Muslim friends and neighbors, no one has ever tried to force Islam on me or anyone I know.

    There’s also a catch-22 for Muslim Americans, if they keep to themselves too much, then they are “not cooperative” or not integrating enough. If they try to get involved in politics and their local communities, then they are “trying to take over.” The same situation has existed for every group of people perceived ‘outsiders’ in this country. Black people, Catholics, Jews, Irish, Germans, East Europeans, Italians, Chinese, etc… unless you are of 100% English Anglo Saxon Protestant descent, you have ancestors who were once considered outsiders here, who had their loyalty questioned.

    Muslims are less than 1% of the US population. The idea that Muslims could force Islamic law on the United States is extremely absurd. Even if Muslims were 50% of the population it likely wouldn’t happen, and here’s why: Out of 50 Muslim-majority countries in the world, only 2 are ruled by Islamic law. It seems Muslims themselves don’t really want to live under Islamic law, if they did they would move to Saudi Arabia or Iran, rather than USA or Europe.

    Really this fear of “creeping Sharia law” is just a populist diversion, because politicians like Peter King don’t have solutions to actual problems (unemployment, health care, rising cost of living, huge income gap, education, environment, moral & cultural rot), they invent ones that aren’t real to make it look like they are doing something.

  6. @Stan, Sorry, I beg to differ with your assertion. American is a country. Not a Christian country. The fact that there are more self-identified Christian Americans than (perhaps) any other religious group doesn’t make America a Christian country. Remember the motto, E Pluribus Unum, which means, literally, “Out of Many, One”. Our diversity is our great strength, even as it challenges us. For me, even though I believe in God, I don’t accept your “God, Country, Family”–in that order. I love my country, and I cannot imagine living elsewhere. I do what I can to make my community a better place. But I don’t put anything ahead of the well-being of my family, and I’m willing to bet you don’t, either. It is certainly presumptive of you to ascribe (and condemn) motivations to others that you have no problem admitting are true for you–you want everyone else to ascribe to YOUR God, you said as much. Every American, as I read the Constitution, has only to be loyal to his or her own beliefs, certainly not yours.

  7. Stan – Sarah’s reply was beautiful, and well-said, so I won’t add on to what she touched on. I will, however, comment on your assertion that America is a Christian country. Let me direct you to the Treaty of Tripoli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli), specifically, this sentence:

    “Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, ….”

    The Founding Fathers were, by and large, Deists, not Christians. They founded the laws of America on many different sources, from the Qur’an, English Common Law, and others. America does not HAVE an official religion. It does not HAVE a state religion. We are not a Christian country any more than we’re a Jewish country, or a Muslim country, or a Rastafarian country. The majority of the population may identify with Christianity, but that does not mean that America is governed by Christian laws.

  8. Our Founders were very clear that America is not a Christian Country, a Hindu Country, an Islamic Country or the Country of any other religion; that’s why we have a First Amendment which, BTW, forbids Shari’a as well as any other religious law.

    It would amuse me to hear frightened people like Stan overlook the very words of our Constitution, if it did not make me ashamed to be associated, through citizenship, with a faction so cowardly.

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