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[QUOTE]Christians, Jews and Muslims branded the hearings a witch hunt, waved signs and chanted, “Shame, shame Pete King!”[/QUOTE]

Yes, ignorant “Christians, Jews and Muslims”. Well-informed “Christians, Jews and Muslims” (and other people) KNOW that these hearings are vital in addressing a very serious, escalating threat.

There are only TWO types of people who oppose the hearings:
1) Those who are sadly misinformed about the very serious issues and have no clue what is going on
2) Those who are very much in-the-know and don’t want YOU to know what they know.

[QUOTE]“Celebrities from boxing legend Mike Tyson to reality show darling Kim Kardashian added their support online.[/QUOTE]

Celebrities should read a couple-hundred books including the Qu’ran, Hadith and Sira… and interview a couple-hundred former-Muslims about the current teachings in Western mosques… BEFORE they go sounding off.

[QUOTE]Magdy Salama, 50, a limo company owner from Astoria, Queens, who held a small American flag on a stick, said he worried his three Muslim kids will grow up facing religious bigotry. “We’re a free country. There should be freedom of religion,” Salama said.[/QUOTE]

Oh please! NOBODY (except a small handful of bigot idiots) is opposed to freedom-of-religion. The MAJORITY of Americans is very much in favor of religious freedom for all.

MOST people are NOT against the right to religious expression.

MOST people are NOT against the right to pray.

MOST people are NOT against the right to have houses-of-worship.

MOST people are NOT against the right to openly declare and practice one’s faith.

HOWEVER:

MOST people are against the practice of ANY faith which encroaches upon the freedoms and rights of people outside of that faith.

MOST people are against a ONE-WAY STREET type of so-called “religious acceptance” or a ONE-WAY so-called “interfaith dialogue”.

MOST people are against having to walk-on-eggshells as not to offend the delicate sensibilities of a particular faith, while receiving no respect for their own faiths.

MOST people are against the escalating Jihad… both the violent and the non-violent types.

MOST people are against the Islamic Supremacy agenda… its objectives, plans and goals for this country… its very real… and its VERIFIABLE progress and advancements thus far.

MOST people are against an ideological, theocratic, totalitarian doctrine which has NO respect for human rights; especially for rights of women, gays and non-muslims.

MOST people, including MOST Muslims, are against terrorist attacks which are escalating around the globe… and most of which are being perpetrated BY Muslims AGAINST both Muslims AND non-Muslims.

//angel
7 March 2011 at 11:17 am


angel:

On the contrary, being a well-informed Muslim, I firmly believe these hearing are not an effort to improve relations within this country nor do I see them as vital to this country’s security.

Rep. King’s basis for these hearings is nonsensical. We claims that the Muslims community is not cooperating with law enforcement officials. There have been recent issues that prove that completely invalid.

1) the Muslim vendor who first reported the smoke coming from the SUV
in Times Square.

2) the Muslim who reported his own son’s radical behavior from Yemen.

3) the believers (Muslims) who reported the strange behavior of the FBI
informant that was planted in the mosque to stir-up radical thought
& action.

The VAST majority of law-abiding Muslims know as much about the non-law-abiding Muslims as the VAST majority of law-abiding Christians know about the non-law-abiding Christians. They hide their intent to do wrong from US as they hide their intent to doing wrong from THEM.

These hearing are divisive and will not only not improve security in this country, but will close many doors to interfaith dialog (quotations, completely unnecessary). What’s the basis of your claim of “religious tolerance” & interfaith dialog being ONE-WAY? I’ve participated in many interfaith dialog events and everyone had input into the dialog.

What’s so hard to understand about that??

//DeucePrez
7 March 2011 at 12:30 pm


angel:

Also, your points that you’re “glossing-over” are veiled.

You stated:

“MOST people are against the practice of ANY faith which encroaches upon the freedoms and rights of people outside of that faith.”

What, exactly do you mean by that vague statement?

Lying Islamaphobes protesting the Islamic community center in lower Manhattan (2½ blocks away from the WTC site) claim that Park 51 is “encroaching upon the freedoms and rights of people outside of that faith“. So, that’s just a claim. A baseless one at that….!


//DeucePrez
7 March 2011 at 12:37 pm

thank God our Constitution is bigger than self-righteous, hypocritical, racist, fascists like angel. jefferson turns in his grave every time one of them spews their rhetoric.

//patriot
7 March 2011 at 1:19 pm

Freedom of religion has always been of huge importance in the country, from the very beginning up to this moment. We must continue to have open dialogues with members of other faiths in order to insure there is continued respect and freedom for all to practice their own ways. When we begin to institutionalize suspicion against a specific religion, as Rep. King seems to be doing, we begin to nibble away at the very foundation of ALL our religious freedoms. If we allow this to happen to one of us, who will stop it from happening to us next? A precedent has been set. A new kind of norm has been established that could now be applied to your religion next. Think about having all the Methodists in the US under suspicion of espionage. All the Mormons are suddenly suspected of horrendous violence. Everyone thinks that Baptists are specialists in the ways of bombs, and that Roman Catholics kidnap and torture innocent people. How would that feel? To have such horrible things thought about you, simply because you are the member of a religious group that is now under suspicion? It’s a terrible thing, isn’t it? Please, all Methodists, Mormons, Baptists and Roman Catholics: I made all that up off the top of my head and it could have been Protestants, Jews and Episcopalians just as easily. I do NOT believe any religion is any more evil than the next. We must all respect each other’s right to believe whatever religion we choose, or if we choose to not believe in any religion at all. That is the American way.

//Kathryn Hill
7 March 2011 at 2:28 pm

Yes, Kathryn Hill
Let’s imagine such suspicions against religious groups, shall we?

Let’s imagine that HUNDREDS of Christians were brutally murdered and wounded JUST THIS PAST HOLIDAY SEASON ALONE!!! In church explosions, in their own homes, in schools, etc…

Let’s say THOUSANDS more Christians were driven out of their homelands JUST THIS PAST HOLIDAY SEASON… no time to pack… with nothing but the clothes on their backs and their kids in their arms! Fearing for the safety of their kids… leaving behind all personal belongings they’d worked hard for all their lives, including their homes… seeking refuge and asylum in neighboring countries and cities! Thousands!

Were not talkin’ ancient history here.

Let’s just suspect that JUST THIS PAST NEW YEAR’S EVE, an Egyption Coptic church explosion killed 26 and injured 92! Now let’s imagine that lots of people immediately celebrated by jumping-with-joy… and literally stepping on actual blown-up body-parts of the victims… while shouting and chanting, “ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!!” .

And what if, JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND, in Thailand, an attack killed one Buddhist Monk, injured another Buddhist Monk and a few other people.

Let’s imagine, not one but TWO attacks on the New York World Trade Center… the first killing only a handful of beople compared to THOUSANDS in the second attack.

Let’s imagine bombings of trains, planes and automobiles… and US Embassy buildings… and hotels.

Let’s imagine brutal attacks around the globe almost EVERY FRICKIN’ DAY since 9/11… with an average of 100 per year terrorist plots rights uncovered right here.

Now what if we were to suspect that only a couple of the plots were plotted by non-Muslims.

And what if all-of-the-above described successful attacks had been perpetrated by people shouting, “ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Now what if we were to suspect that all those Allahu-Akbar-yelling attackers were Jews.
Or how about if we profile those dang those Allahu-Akbar-shouting, violent Buddhist Monks…
or as you suggested, what if we suspect the Baptists,
or the Hindus,
or Lutherans…
or how ’bout those Jehovah Witnesses?

Huh? What if… ?

And what if some of their pastors, clerics, rabbis had provided counseling for nervous, soon-to-be jihadists before some-of-the-above attacks? Or had provided safe havens in their churches and synagogues for wanted terrorism-connected individuals?

Gee… what would people think of us if we to profile any of these religions?

Good flippin’ grief. Get real.

//angel
7 March 2011 at 9:02 pm

“Celebrities from boxing legend Mike Tyson to reality show darling Kim Kardashian.”

Now that is a cross section of intelligence! LOL!

//LoveThemMoonbats
8 March 2011 at 6:05 am

deuceprez, can you do me a favor as an informed muslim? i saw an article on this or defend the prophet website that said god wants fornicators and adulterers publicly lashes 80 or 100 times? is that true?

//mike
8 March 2011 at 2:17 pm

Written by Mohamed Adlouni, for the Shura Council of the Muslim Brotherhood… approved and adopted by the Shura Council as a supplement to the “long-term plan” for North America:

[QUOTE] “The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim’s destiny to pertform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes…” [/QUOTE]

Gee… they must be some kind of “islamophobes” or something…

//angel
10 March 2011 at 9:27 am

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