Monday, September 26, 2016   

  Home     About     Guest Editorials     Advertise     Blog     Site Map     Links     Contact      Subscribe RSS      Subscribe Email  
Home » Loonwatch.com

LW Exclusive: Shocking Video of Geert Wilders Hate Speech on US Soil

26 May 2011 Loonwatch.com 6 Comments Email This Post Email This Post

Geert Wilders in Nashville at the Cornerstone Church

LW EXCLUSIVE: SHOCKING VIDEO OF GEERT WILDERS HATE SPEECH ON US SOIL

The Southern United States and the Midwest have been ravaged by violent forces of nature in the past few weeks; massive flooding has threatened to erase whole communities from Tennessee to Alabama, and over the past few days behemoth-like tornadoes, whipping in fury and frenzy swallowed and spit out whole towns.

The cataclysmic events of the Rapture predicted by Christian radio broadcaster Harold Camping may not have come to pass but these tragedies have altered lives forever, and our thoughts and prayers should be with those affected. I encourage everyone to contribute in whatever way they can to relief and support efforts in those regions.

“Heartland USA” as this region is otherwise known is too often ignored, some forget that beyond the confines of our large urban cities there is a whole other America that is rural, conservative and vibrant.

It is here that another force has taken hold and is setting up the perfect storm of intolerance, bigotry, racism, xenophobia and hatred.

This force is a product of the wedding of Islamophobia across the Atlantic, between right-leaning populist politicians and Christian and Israeli/Jewish Zionists that has led to a feverous increase in anti-Democracy and anti-Muslim activity.

This is the real monster that should worry us, not some eight-headed dragon beast that might emerge from the sea and usher in the Second Coming of Christ.

Extremism on our Shores

On May 12, 2011 in Madison, Tennessee, a suburb of Nashville, Geert Wilders readily accepted an invitation from the Tennessee Freedom Coalition to speak at Cornerstone Church, a mega church with regular attendance exceeding 3,900 weekly. LW received exclusive video from Rob, a fan of LoonWatch who attended the event and taped the speeches of Wilders, Lou Ann Zelenik and Andy Miller. He was so upset by what he saw that he immediately sent us the footage he captured.

Wilders speech was a diatribe against Islam and Muslims in which all the familiar talking points were rehashed but with a little extra venom, undoubtedly playing to the sentiments of the crowd.

LW Exclusive: Shocking Video of Geert Wilders Hate Speech on US Soil Part 1:

Geert Wilders: “Its Islam Stupid (raucous applause). We must stop the Islamization of our countries, more Islam means less freedom”…”And now, now Europe is looking slowly but gradually like Arabia”…”It was the land of our fathers, it is our land now, it is our values, our values are based on Christianity, Judaism and Humanism and not Islam, it is that simple (applause)”…”and I have a message for all those people who want to rob us from our freedoms, and my message is stay in your own country (loud applause)”…”we are not going to allow Islam to steal our country from us (applause)”…”if Jerusalem falls, Athens, Rome, Amsterdam and Nashville will fall therefore my point is we all are Israel (applause)”…”the only place where Christians are safe in the Middle East is that beautiful country called Israel (loud applause)”…”Make no mistake, please make no mistake, Islam is also coming to America, in fact Islam already is in America. America is facing a stealth jihad, the Islamic attempt to introduce Sharia’ law bit by bit”…”what we need my friends, what we need to turn the tide is a spirit of resistance, what we need I repeat it again is a spirit of resistance”…”we must repeat it over and over again, especially to our children, our Western values and culture based on Christianity and Judaism is better and superior to the Islamic culture (applause), and leaders who talk about immigration without mentioning Islam are blind (applause)”…”we must stop the immigration from non-Western countries and we must forbid the construction of new hate palaces called mosques (applause)”…”the press calls it an Arab spring, I call it unfortunately an Arab winter (applause), Islam and freedom, Islam and democracy are incompatible (applause)”…”the so called Prophet Muhammad was a terrorist worse than Bin Laden ever was (applause)”…”neutrality my friends, neutrality in the face of evil is evil itself (applause).”

Why is a mega-church, an institution that professes to follow the teachings of Christ hosting such a hate-mongerer in the heartland of the USA? What is the Tennessee Freedom Coalition and why is it paying an extremist foreign politician who undermines “freedom” to speak at a Church? What are the ramifications for the rest of the West, the USA in particular when such an extremist is given a platform to incite hate?

Cornerstone Church

This mega-church is a bit like a franchise corporation. It has two locations: one in Bowling Green, Kentucky and the other in Madison, Tennessee. It is led by Senior Pastor Maury Davis,

Pastor Maury Davis was arrested at age eighteen for the crime of first-degree murder. Following his trial and conviction, he served eight and one-half years in the Texas Department of Corrections. During his incarceration, Pastor Davis found his Savior in Jesus Christ and led a revival among his fellow prisoners.

Can anyone imagine what would happen if say Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf had a rap sheet similar to Pastor Davis? Pamela Geller would be doing back flips through Manhattan.

Aside from boasting about its large attendance, the Church also has a Starbucks-esque Coffee shop and other amenities for the Faith-full shopper. It successfully marries capitalism and religion and also adds an ultra-extra helping of Nationalism.

When nearing the Church, the first thing one notices is the strikingly gargantuan American flag in front of the Church:

Inside the Church the backdrop is red, white and blue and the colors surround a white modern looking Cross that reminds one more of the lapel pin worn by Captain Kirk on Star Trek than a cross. I guess they really want you to know they are patriots.

The Church’s philosophy is based on a literal belief in the Bible. They are certainly evangelical and reaffirm the theology of the “millennial reign of Christ,” i.e. the Rapture or the-floating-into-the-sky version of the End Times.

They believe that the Bible, “both the Old and New Testaments, are verbally inspired of God and are the revelation of God to man, the infallible, authoritative rule of faith and conduct (2 Timothy 3:15-17; 1 Thessalonians 2:13; 2 Peter 1:21).”

Danios wrote in his “Understanding Jihad” series about how most American Christians believe the above, and it adds further credence to his recent article, “The ‘But that’s just the Old Testament’ Cop-out.”

Tennessee Freedom Coalition

The Tennessee Freedom Coalition, led by Lou Ann Zelenik and Andy Miller is a right-wing organization that can be considered a part of the Tea Party Movement, the base of the GOP. The addition of the TFC to the long list of GOP organizations can be considered one more dark stain in the history of the Tennessee GOP. It was not long ago that their members were making racist remarks about the president:

On top of the racism, homophobia isn’t far behind, the Republican governor of Tennessee has until June 1st to consider an “anti-Gay bill that would prohibit the passage of anti-discrimination laws protecting LGBT individuals.”

Tennessee also happens to be the state where we have seen a rise in hate against Muslims (in fact it is quickly becoming the center of anti-Muslim hate). Courts have been considering whether Islam is a religion, lawmakers are likely to pass a “Ban Sharia’ law” bill inspired by a documented racist and extremist Zionist named David Yerushalmi. It is scene to the Murfreesboro mosque struggle which made headlines this past summer. A year ago Pamela Geller was a headline speaker for the Tennessee Tea Party convention, talk about insane.

For its part the Tennessee Freedom Coalition was passing out this pamphlet at the Church:

How do you promote tolerance by “fighting” a religion? What they really mean to say in light of Wilders speech is, “Promote Religious Tolerance by Working to Stop the Growth of Islam,” which is like saying “promote tolerance by being intolerant.” Obviously this puts Muslims, you know, those who practice Islam in quite the bind.

LW Exclusive: Shocking Video of Geert Wilders Hate Speech on US Soil Part 2:

Conclusion

This is not the first time Geert Wilders has spoken at the pulpit, previously he spoke at Synagogues and at Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller’s SIOA 9/11 hate rally. However his presence amongst 3,000 admiring followers on US soil is not only reprehensible, it is a development that bodes ill for all of us.

It will only increase the radicalization of the anti-Muslim movement which seeks at its fundamental level to curtail freedom of religion and expression, first the rights of Muslims (soft target) and then anyone else they disagree with.

A word must also be said about Wilders obsessive citation of Israel. It is a country which he boasts about visiting over “forty times” and which he cites as a paragon of virtue, freedom, liberty, justice and light. He cites the security of Israel as one of the reasons that the West must fight Islam.

Lets forget the war crimes, human rights violations and apartheid policies in Israel for a second and really look at the hate that is emerging in its name. Individuals and organizations with deep connections to Israel, both network-wise and theologically are calling for the destruction of Islam which they regard as evil incarnate.

Aubrey Chernick (one of the leading funders of Islamophobia), Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Geert Wilders, David Horowitz, Brigitte Gabriel, Allen West, the BNP, EDL, SIOE, SIOA, BPE, JDL, large numbers of Christian and Jewish Zionists and others believe that as long as you are fervently pro-Israel you can be as anti-Islam/Muslim as you want without suffering any consequences. Such a position at the end of the day only harms Jewish moral interests, and this much has been expressed by brave voices such as Not in Our Name, Jews without Borders, Muzzlewatch, Richard Silverstein, Max Blumenthal, our very own loonwatcher Gefilte, Glenn Greenwald and others.

The spectacle of a racist, anti-Muslim Dutch politician arriving on our shores to warn us about Islam is quite ironic, but what is most disturbing is the reception he received from a large audience of Americans. It may seem far-fetched now but one day Geert Wilders or someone like him (Allen West?) may move on from addressing thousands of Church goers to addressing Congress–the question is will he receive as many applauses as Benjamin Netanyahu?

Share/Bookmark




6 Comments »

  1. [2.93] And when We made a covenant with you and raised the mountain over you: Take hold of what We have given you with firmness and be obedient. They said: We hear and disobey. And they were made to imbibe (the love of) the calf into their hearts on account of their unbelief Say: Evil is that which your belief bids you if you are believers.
    [2.94] Say: If the future abode with Allah is specially for you to the exclusion of the people, then invoke death if you are truthful.
    [2.95] And they will never invoke it on account of what their hands have sent before, and Allah knows the unjust.
    [2.96] And you will most certainly find them the greediest of men for life (greedier) than even those who are polytheists; every one of them loves that he should be granted a life of a thousand years, and his being granted a long life will in no way remove him further off from the chastisement, and Allah sees what they
    [2.97] Say: Whoever is the enemy of Jibreel– for surely he revealed it to your heart by Allah’s command, verifying that which is before it and guidance and good news for the believers.
    [2.98] Whoever is the enemy of Allah and His angels and His apostles and Jibreel and Meekaeel, so surely Allah is the enemy of the unbelievers.
    [2.99] And certainly We have revealed to you clear communications and none disbelieve in them except the transgressors.

    dueceprez, is Jibreel and Meekaeel, gabriel and michael?

  2. Muslims seem to obsess on this man. It is clear he does not like Islam and yes he is on American Soil. It is easy to find many Muslims on You Tube or in the streets of Washington or New York protesting and making speeches that I would label as hate speech. I have never been into a Mosque but I would be willing to be that a few hate speeches have been made in some of those within the US borders.

    The name of this publication is Islamophobia; if 90 percent of it or more is devoted to how awful people are and how these mean people should be given no venue to speak, then the problem will never be solved. You should be asking “Why are these people clapping?” Most of the people in the congregation are educated, affluent, and fair minded if given the chance. Instead of being angry at the church a Muslim with some standing should ask to speak at the church. Respond to this man. Christians are against marrying 12 year old girls, keeping dancing boys, they expect women to be treated equally including having the ability to drive. They expect to be able to disagree with a religious figure and not be labled an Apostate or blasphemer. They believe in a secular court system, they believe in freedom of speech, they support Israel and yes they believe that capitalism and religion are not exclusive. If most Muslims are peaceful inform them how you can tell the difference between the different sects of Muslims and their beliefs. Give them something to think about beyond what is in the News media. Explain to them why most Islamically led or dominated countries are not tolerent despite the Koran’s teaching of tolerence. Discuss why Egypt will not allow women to drive and why Muslim men want to hand out cords to beat the women that plan to drive on the appointed driving day. Explain why the Islamic religious leaders of Iran send people to jail that do not agree with them.

    I do not mean to be negative but this is what people are hearing, this is what people see happening. What you call bigotary is in reality a lot of people seeing and listening to things that violate every value they have been raised with and it scares them. They are not sure they want people with these types of beliefs as neighbors or being schoolmates with their children. It is the reason(s) that Mosques and Islamic Schools are opposed. These issues and several others need to be addressed head and buried. You get no where calling these people bigots.

  3. The name of this publication is Islamophobia; if 90 percent of it or more is devoted to how awful people are and how these mean people should be given no venue to speak, then the problem will never be solved. You should be asking “Why are these people clapping?” Most of the people in the congregation are educated, affluent, and fair minded if given the chance. << so were the Germans as Hitler was coming up in the political arena of Germany.

    Christians are against marrying 12 year old girls, keeping dancing boys,<< so are Muslims. The issue of marrying off young girls is not specific to Islam, this is a cultural problem. You will find the same practice NUMEROUS non-Muslim majority countries. Even the United States will allow a young girl of 15 years old to get married with parental consent. China, India, CHRISTIAN Sudan, too many to name, also practice this. Fact is, the religion of Islam does not even give a specific age for marriage, but says that a girl AND boy must be able to perform the duties of being a spouse be it mentally, emotionally, and of course physically. No where in any other religious book does it give a specific age that a girl must be to get married. This was a man made law which came to pass in only the last 50 years. If you look to rural America, you will find many grandmothers who were married at 12 and 13 years old, and this was not even 1400 years ago.

    they expect women to be treated equally including having the ability to drive. << No where in Islam is it prohibited for women to drive, again this is a cultural issue. And your later post that Egypt doesn't allow women to drive I know for fact is a lie, because I lived in Egypt for some time, and there are LOTS of women drivers, no one is beating them. I am interested to know in what areas you think that Muslim women are not treated equally? I am a Muslim woman for 8 years now, and am spoiled !!

    I can not speak for the leaders of Iran, matter of fact, I don't know of any Muslims who think the Iranian leadership is sane. The Iranian people themselves tried to kick them out.

    The problem is two fold. For sure there are some incidents of Muslims acting in a way that is not within the limits of Islam. And then when the Muslims TRY to speak out against the extremists, we must answer to the extremists as to how they are wrong when Muslims are being persecuted. Then the extremists will ask "You say they are innocent and not at war with Islam, then why are they burning down our mosques? Why are they burning our Quran? Why are they holding Muslims as prisoners without charges? "….

    so now you tell me…. How should I answer them?

    And oh my God, if one more time I hear some American saying ' We should not allow mosques because Saudi Arabia doesnt allow churches "….. Well then in that case, you are NO DIFFERENT then Saudi Arabia, and have no room to speak against them when you become like them.

    And when Muslims ask for air time to speak out against our extremists, we would appreciate the air time and the forum to speak, the same that you folks were given to counter that idiot Terry Jones.

  4. Ok Nura I guess its the Saudis that do not allow women to drive: The point of the piece is not what you know is but what other people think. If you believe that the people in that church are akin to Germans before WWII and others agree with you then it is doubtful you or like minded people will solve the problem as that makes you part of it. What I wrote was not an attack but simply issues people talk about when they discuss Islam. They are not pretty and they may not all be valid but its what people think. The job of educating people as to the difference between cultural beliefs/traditions versus Islamic beliefs has to fall upon interested and engaged Muslims who are willing to put themselves out in the public forum. You cannot use the but your grandpa did it argument as most people think civilized cultures have moved beyond the marriage of young girls. Maybe they do not think about the fact that life expectancy in some parts of the world is in the 30s and thus people have developed different traditions which carry on even as the population is able to grow older. I cannot solve the problem but for you or anyone else to do so then those people have to move beyond name calling, get thicker skin, and be prepared to deal with a lot of misconceptions.

    As to how to answer the extremists: I am not sure as I do not know any and I have never had a chance to discuss the issues with him or her. I guess I would state that a lot of problems in the United States developed after the twin towers attack. It made a lot of people angry and has killed many more Muslims than Americans over the course of many years. If the conversation moves to the US support of Israel before 911, then its a simple fact that many Americans support Israel for religious reasons and because they feel that after WWII they needed a place to live. Terrorists could kill a million Americans and support for Israel would not lessen in the Christian community, in fact a large attack with the intent of changing US policy would just upset many people and make the country more determined not to cave into demands, in addition to getting a lot more Muslims killed and detained. If I were a Muslim and were approaching them I would use the Koran and show them how their actions are wrong, how being a suicide bomber will not get you into heaven, and how the murder of various peoples is a sin according to your religion. Since Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance then this should not be that hard to do, at the very least it should help to erode their base of support.

    Lastly, I would be willing to bet the church in the article would be glad to host an Islamic speaker to discuss issues that the congregation is worried about.

  5. Again, as I stated before as part of the two-fold problem, Muslims would love to be able to have a forum in order to address misconceptions and ignorance in an engaging and thoughtful manner, however, the likes of people at this church DO NOT WANT to hear it, they only want to believe what THEY THINK is right, regardless if it is the truth or not.

    Secondly, Muslims who want to speak out against the extremism are not being given forums to do so, because these types of stories do not pay the bills for the media air time, its not the popular thing that people want to hear. And again, we are doing what we can, in the face of our mosques being burnt down, our holy book being burnt or shredded, amongst other numerous affronts. So I as an educated American born Muslim feel like I am damned if I do, or damned if I don’t. We are fighting the anti-Muslim extremists and also the Muslim extremists at the same time.

    And also, I did not use the argument that ‘my grandpa did it’, I said that this practice is still going on today in rural America, as girls as young as 15 can be married TODAY with parental consent. This is a problem the world over, and not SPECIFIC to Islam. That was the point I was making. Forgive me if I wasn’t clear in the previous post on this issue. I understand that you are not attacking Islam specifically, and that you are only conveying the thoughts of some misguided or ignorant folks.

    As far as the Twin Tower attacks, even though the Americans didn’t know much about Islam or Muslims before that day ( and actually they still don’t know ), Muslims knew about America long before, and what they knew was not flattering in the least. I won’t bother to go off topic on all those issues.

    Israel of course is an issue, however I won’t even bother to get into that discourse in this particular forum,it would serve no benefit.

    As for Muslims using the Quran to teach against suicide bombings and illegal murder of innocents, we are doing this as best we can. It’s a little difficult when we must do it in front of burned down pulpits with charred copies of the Quran to try and teach from.

    And I would be all too happy to go to this church and speak to the congregation, if you can guarantee my safety of course, which no one can guarantee the safety of Muslims in this country anymore. Perhaps it would be better to invite them into our mosque ( if it’s not burned down of course ).

    I love my religion above all else, and after my religion I love the core values of what America used to stand for. I am very sad to see that America is becoming increasingly like those who they claim to be at war with. A sad example of a kettle calling a pot black.

  6. Hi Criley401. As a Christian Swiss living in a Muslim nation in South East Asia, I understand what you are saying. We shouldn’t deny or ban people such as Geert attending. Banning someone is easy, and his followers will simply find another loophole. And everyone has the right to be afraid, because even Muslims are scared. What we should do is educate, and educate is the hardest thing to do in today’s climate. Based on experience, there is a line between cultural values and religious values, and that line is so vague because most cultures incorporate religious values. I have many apolitical Muslim friends from this part of the world, and in truth they see why Israel is fighting against Palestine. The people of Israel have every right to defend their nation and live peacefully. But then that war is not of religious grounds, but more towards politics. But I won’t divulge into that matter.

    I’m pretty sure many Muslims can tell the difference between the different sectarians of Islam and their beliefs. The only problem here is the media. The media will only portray what people wants to see. No one wants to see the lives of the millions of peaceful normal Muslims right? Everyone wants to see some radical crazy extremist vowing war on someone.

    “Explain to them why most Islamically led or dominated countries are not tolerent despite the Koran’s teaching of tolerence.”
    – Again this is mostly based on culture. I am guessing this is what Middle East is portrayed as, especially Saudi. However when you come to South East Asia, where hundreds of millions of Muslims live in Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Brunei, Phillippines and even China, this is not the case. Everyone of different race, religion, social standing etc live together in harmony. No one here is hating one another, apart from the select few extremists.

    “Explain why the Islamic religious leaders of Iran send people to jail that do not agree with them.”
    – This does not have anything to do with the leader’s religious values. This is just a simple case of imperialism and power.

    So basically, yes there is no point in calling people bigots. There is no point in banning someone from voicing their opinions. It is how people perceive others, in which the media plays a vital role.

    Remember, if Muslims and Christians and Jews and Sikhs or whoever, are living in peace and harmony in America, Al-Qaeda will have no point in attacking the Americans. It is the instability created that will fuel the separation.

Have your say!

Add your comment below, or trackback from your own site. You can also subscribe to these comments via RSS.

Be nice. Keep it clean. Stay on topic. No spam.

You can use these tags:
<a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>