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Alan Colmes Has Heated Exchange With Director Of ‘Jihad Watch’ Blog Cited By Norway Terrorist

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Alan Colmes Has Heated Exchange With Director Of ‘Jihad Watch’ Blog Cited By Norway Terrorist

by Jon Bershad

When a tragedy like the one in Norway occurs, it’s human nature to try and explain the unexplainable. This almost always turns into a search for someone to blame. This frequently leads to attempts to guess what media figures the killers in question may have followed, putting those figures on the defensive. That defense is much harder when the terrorist himself cites your work explicitly. Such is the position that Robert Spencer, director of the blog Jihad Watch, now finds himself. Today, he appeared on Alan Colmes’ radio show to defend his site and his work.

Unsurprisingly, they found very little common ground.

This weekend, it was discovered that Spencer’s anti-Jihad (some, not Spencer, would say “anti-Muslim”) writing was cited 64 times in the manifesto of the terrorist Anders Behring Breivik. Because of this, he quickly received a large amount of unwanted attention, being mentioned on NBC Nightly News and featured heavily in a New York Times article entitled “Killings in Norway Spotlight Anti-Muslim Thought in U.S.” Spencer has decried this “blame game” as a “leftist fantasy.”

In this writer’s opinion, Breivik was crazy and you can’t blame any one person for crazy being, well, crazy. I may find much of Spencer’s writings reprehensible and he may have contributed to an anti-Muslim culture that Breivik dwelled in, but he’s no more guilty for this crime than a heavy metal band is for Columbine.

That being said, Colmes got some good points in when he pointed out the difference between the way people like Spencer categorize Breivik to the way they do Islamic terrorists. Why are the latter endemic of a massive Islamic cultural problem whereas Spencer is so quick to describe Breivik as alone gunman. Hypocrisy is just as dangerous as irrational blaming.

It’s a fascinating (and heated) conversation. Watch the clip from Fox News below:

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  1. You guys might want to educate on Spencer’s point that mosques are built on churches. His example of Jerusalem is charged and false, since it was a garbage dump before the Muslims fixed it up. Plus, for more emphasis, the Crusaders were not exactly respectful of the place.

  2. Why does Robert Spencer even get attention, like only stupid people are “his fans”. He lies, munipulates and tries to spread as much bigoted hatred as possible.

    Spencer’s work has been criticized as showing “entrenched hostility” towards Islam,[24] and condemned as hate speech by a number of Muslim-American and civil rights groups.[25][26]

    Karen Armstrong criticized Spencer’s citations of Islamic scripture as cherry-picked,[27] stating among other examples that “Spencer never cites the Koran’s condemnation of all warfare as an ‘awesome evil’, its prohibition of aggression or its insistence that only self-defence justifies armed conflict…” She concludes that “His book is a gift to extremists who can use it to ‘prove’ … that the west is incurably hostile to their faith.”

    Benazir Bhutto accused Spencer of “falsely constructing a divide between Islam and West”. She said he was using the Internet to spread hatred of Islam by presenting a “skewed, one-sided, and inflammatory story that only helps to sow the seed of civilizational conflict”.[28]

    Dinesh D’Souza, of the Hoover Institution, wrote that Spencer downplays the passages of the Quran that urge peace and goodwill to reach one-sided opinions. He contends that Spencer applies a moral standard to Muslim empires that could not have been met by any European empire.[29]

    In an article discussing Bat Ye’or’s 2005 book Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis, French academic historian Ivan Jablonka refers to Spencer, saying he has made a specialty of denouncing Islamist threats and quoting Spencer’s own review of Eurabia as criticizing Europe for “selling its soul to the devil ‘in exchange for markets'”.[30]

    The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has named Spencer and SIOA co-founder Pamela Geller as the founders of an anti-Muslim hate group.[31][32] In the Summer 2011 issue of Intelligence Report, published by the SPLC, Robert Steinback listed Spencer as a member of the “anti-Muslim inner circle”, noting that “Spencer has been known to fraternize with European racists and neo-fascists, though he says such contacts were merely incidental.”[33] Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) listed Spencer as a “Smearcaster”, and stated that “by selectively ignoring inconvenient Islamic texts and commentaries, Spencer concludes that Islam is innately extremist and violent”.[34]

  3. perseveranze,

    congrats on finding wiki. perhaps you can now show where your claim of muslims giving the most to charity or that the highest standard of living in history was under the 5th caliphate.

    good cherry-picking to make your point. but you should erase the footnote numbers [*]. if you are trying to pass that off as an original thought? did you see what else http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Spencer_(author) also says:

    Spencer does not believe that traditional Islam is “inherently terroristic” but says he can prove that “traditional Islam contains violent and supremacist elements”, and that “its various schools unanimously teach warfare against and the subjugation of unbelievers”.[10] However, he rejects the notion that all Muslims are necessarily violent people.

    didn’t you call me a hypocrate once? yet still to see any proof of my hyprocisy. as for your’s, well i won’t stand in judgement.

  4. Wow. Gotta love the world today.

  5. Kindly do stigmatize people with mental disorders by calling Anders Breivik “crazy.” He has no history of mental illness and his actions were carefully planned over a long period and were executed with exacting detail.

    I have read much of Breivik’s 1500 page manifesto. Though I found the contents to be reprehensible, as a journalist and freelance writer, I thought that Breivik was highly intelligent and an excellent writer. A person with a serious mental disorder would not be capable of producing such a work.

    Anders Breivik is a right-wing Christian terrorist. Spencer, along with the rest of the Islamophobe industry, as well as the Tea Party and the Republican Party in the U.S. and the right wing parties of Europe, and the Christian Evangelicals and fundamentalists are morally responsible for the Norway atrocities. Anders Breivik is their creation. Watch the video he made or read his manuscript.

  6. I always wonder whether these “antijihad” mouthpieces think there are any good Muslims or mosques, other than former Muslims… …or dead ones.

    They seem to oppose every single currently faithful Muslim person and expression of faith, right down to the room in the Pentagon that is used for Muslim prayers on Fridays… The only Muslims I’ve ever seen them support are ones who converted to some other faith, and who speak out against the evils of Islam. Methinks they’re bigots, but I’m always willing to–and in fact, am anxious to–be proved wrong…

  7. “Anders Breivik is a right-wing Christian terrorist”.-Rothwell

    “No Twisted Religion in Norway Tragedy”, exerpted from an article in the Toronto Sun, July 30, 2011.
    “As soon as it was revealed Anders Behring Breivik was not a Muslim, and not part of some jihadist gang, the knives were out. Because, it was claimed, he was a fundamentalist Christian.
    In his personal manifesto the killer wrote: “Regarding my personal relationship with God, I guess I’m not an excessively religious man. I am first and foremost a man of logic. If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God.”
    He also quoted various atheist philosophers when he posted on blogs, was supportive of the gay community, hadn’t attended church in 17 years, and seems to have had no connection to organized Christianity.
    The same happened, and still happens, with Timothy McVeigh. The Oklahoma killer was an atheist, who even in his final letter before execution screamed against God. No matter, he is still said to be a Christian.”

  8. Kaatib,

    “The mass murders in Oslo have raised a host of agonizing questions, but few have such contemporary resonance as whether Anders Behring Breivik, the right-wing extremist arrested in the attacks that killed 76 Norwegians July 22, is a Christian.

    Breivik claimed that he is a Christian in various forums, but most explicitly and in greatest detail in the 1,500-page manifesto he compiled over several months and posted on the Internet.

    ‘At the age of 15 I chose to be baptised (sic) and confirmed in the Norwegian State Church,’ the 32-year-old Breivik wrote. ‘I consider myself to be 100 percent Christian.’

    But he also fiercely disagrees with the politics of most Protestant churches and the Roman Catholic Church.

    ‘Regarding my personal relationship with God, I guess I’m not an excessively religious man,’ he writes. ‘I am first and foremost a man of logic. However, I am a supporter of a monocultural Christian Europe.'”

    Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Is-Anders-Breivik-a-Christian-terrorist-1624540.php#ixzz1TcxwclUG

  9. jesus christ, this is the most inane point i’ve ever seen people argue over. clearly he is a follower of the god of abraham. given the brutality of said god. he was just following the example of yahweh/god/allah (he is known by many names, oh wait, is that the devil?).

  10. It is not an inane point. It is extremely important in our societies to note that terrorism is not a side-effect of Islam, which is a mainstream viewpoint in the West that leads to persecution of the Muslim minority. The whole point of this website is to make that point explicit.

    More clearly, he is NOT a follower of the God of Abraham. He describes himself, as I have stated, as a “cultural Christian”. As in, he cares nothing for the ritual, establishment, or spirituality of a Christian lifestyle. He is a man who worships only hate and bigotry- using the Islamophobic climate to justify his atrocities.

    Say what you will of said god’s “brutality.” The prophets have all stressed a life of peace and tranquility- two concepts entirely foreign to the mind of Anders Breivik.

    Mike, undoubtedly you’ve heard it before, you’ll hear it again, and you’ve got arguments for it, but terrorism has no faith. The goals of terrorists are counter to the goals of the faithful. Men like bin Laden and Breivik are just psychopaths, who target others based on their cultural differences.

  11. tyler,

    “Men like bin Laden and Breivik are just psychopaths, who target others based on their cultural differences.” i thought bin laden target the us based on our forgein policies, most notably our support for israel and our infidel boots defiling the holy land of saudi arabia? as for you saying, “It is extremely important in our societies to note that terrorism is not a side-effect of Islam”, i think your way off on that point. terrorism can be a side-effect of any ideology which is not totally pacifist. economics, religion, and politics are the greatest motivators of human acts, perhaps in that order. looks like both bin Laden and Breivik had no economic worries. if religion isn’t a motivating force in terror, then why are mosques attacked so much? why blow up shia shrines, why beat ahmadis to death, why kill un workers because a book was burnt, why riot in the streets killing people over cartoons? why demolish the church of the holy sepulchre? why the crusades? clearly islam doesn’t have a monopoly on terror, but to say that there is no connection. here an example of a religion, islam being a direct cause for terror. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_Seizure

    perseverance accused me of having my head in the sand, really. he didn’t explain why he thought that, i hope i did a better job of making my point? and i didn’t even cherry-pick any verses from the koran. hope to hear from you soon.

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