Anti-Shariah conference at Madison church spurs vigil
14 November 2011
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A Colorado-based ministries group is planning to hold a vigil outside Cornerstone Church in Madison during morning services today in response to the Constitution or Sharia conference held there Friday.
In a letter to Cornerstone pastor Maury Davis dated Nov. 5, Charles E. Carlson of Project Strait Gate urged the church to cancel the conference.
“The lead speakers are inflammatory, anti-islamic racists, who engender, if not openly advocate, war in Iran,” Carlson wrote. “This program is not about ‘Shariah’ law or ‘Jihad,’ as is its pretext, it is about war. … One or more hotels have canceled the event with good reason, and you have picked it up out of the gutter.”
The letter also encouraged Cornerstone members to meet with the group outside the church. Promises of a large sign reading, “WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB?” being displayed at the vigil also were made.
According to its website, Strait Gate is an action program started by We Hold These Truths, a volunteer-led organization formed in 1996. The purpose of both groups, according to the site, is to reach out to “lost sheep” within the church who don’t know they’re “lost.”
Project Strait Gate also focuses on war and its causes. It has confronted more than 50 megachurches, the site says.
About 500 people attended the Shariah law conference Friday.
Original post: Anti-Shariah conference at Madison church spurs vigil
warning, this has nothing to do with this article. looks like my replies on the article with the ugly picture of geller have scrool of. Muhd Bennett, let me know if you didn’t see them and you want me to try and recreate? thusly i’m coping and pasteing these from the bagel shop article.
“Your knowledge of Islam is quite pitiful”. no doubt. that is why i ask questions. but i have read “the women”. and yes 4:12 has sibling regardsless of gender inheriting equal shares. seems inconsistant with the logic of the son getting 2x the daughter. as for careful reading perhaps you should take your own advise. my issue is with the son getting twice the daughter.
4:11: Allah instructs you concerning your children: for the male, what is equal to the share of two females. But if there are [only] daughters, two or more, for them is two thirds of one’s estate. And if there is only one, for her is half. And for one’s parents, to each one of them is a sixth of his estate if he left children. But if he had no children and the parents [alone] inherit from him, then for his mother is one third. And if he had brothers [or sisters], for his mother is a sixth, after any bequest he [may have] made or debt. Your parents or your children – you know not which of them are nearest to you in benefit. [These shares are] an obligation [imposed] by Allah . Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.
4:12: And for you is half of what your wives leave if they have no child. But if they have a child, for you is one fourth of what they leave, after any bequest they [may have] made or debt. And for the wives is one fourth if you leave no child. But if you leave a child, then for them is an eighth of what you leave, after any bequest you [may have] made or debt. And if a man or woman leaves neither ascendants nor descendants but has a brother or a sister, then for each one of them is a sixth. But if they are more than two, they share a third, after any bequest which was made or debt, as long as there is no detriment [caused]. [This is] an ordinance from Allah , and Allah is Knowing and Forbearing.
Yes, i’ve been told the man is “the maintainer and protector” of the woman. thus the reasoning for the inequallity of this sharia inheritance law. but don’t you see that as a problem? “A woman does not have this responsibility”, see to me that is the very definition of sexism. you are treating her as if she was still a child. so with this social structure in mind it makes perfect sense to not bother educating girls, especial when there are limited resources, say like in afghanistan. “NOWHERE IN THE QURAN DOES IT SAY A WOMEN IS WORTH HALF OF A MAN.” where did i say it did? your owe advise seems in order again. but i can see how critics of islam draw that conclusion. let’s see, when witnessing a will you can have 2 men or you can replace 1 man with 2 women. and of course there’s this whole “for the male, what is equal to the share of two females”. but you are right i haven’t read the whole koran, just the first 4 surahs and the entire 24th (just opened it one night and the title “the light” made me think there might be some enlightenment within) but then i read it.
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14 November 2011 at 12:16 pm “You seem to be obsessed with the idea of stoning.” don’t forget the flogging, i’m obsessed with that too. i wonder why, oh yeah the brutallity of it. the fact it is such an ungodly act. even if you don’t whip someone in the face or genitals. the fact it is inconsistant with the idea of not allowing “cruel and unusual punishment”. i’m glad to hear your fiqh differentiates between minor and major apostate. but i think you are in the minority. are you a “koran only muslim”? is that why you don’t like hadiths being posted? anyways, the four major schools of islamic all agree to stone apostates. either way you are in favor of stoning adulterers, flogging fornicators and slanderers and drunks, RIGHT!!!!! given there are “4 MALE WITNESSES”. so why do they have to be MALE? see i don’t care if there are 400 witnesess, we don’t flog people in america anymore. is a video tape evidence? what about pregnancy. do you need to see the hadith where pregnancy is considered proof? well if your not sunni, as in follow the sunnah, but you do know 90% of muslims are sunni and even the shia follow some hadiths, right? not many koran only muslims.
as for sharia is only for muslims, yes i understand the concept. but i disagree with it 100%. i believe american law should apply equally to all americans regardless of race, religion, creed, national origin, gender or even sexual orientation.
“you only visited hate websites.” really. the hadiths and verses from the koran are from faithinallah.org. i think it’s daisy khan and iman feisals (however you spell that) website? you should check it out. if you mouse over the drop down tap Sunnah and click on Sahih Bukhari then scroll down to the 84th book. Dealing with Apostates. i don’t see the word treason anywhere, but with my poor reading skills i may have missed it?
as for “2:256 that there is no compulsion in religion.” according to my “the message of the qur an: translated and explained by muhammad asad”, that verse has nothing to do with apostates. it’s from the medina period and is in referance to forced conversions. i think you took that out of context. let me know if you need me to give you the entire explaination/footnote. or maybe cair gave me a “hate koran”?
“quoting that Hadith with Ali (only shows your close mindedness).” what?how’s that? why would quoting a hadith be proof of close mindedness?????????????????????????????????
maybe this guy is koran only? do you speak arabic? how do you define zina?http://www.islamicperspectives.com/StoningIntro.htm
14 November 2011 at 12:59 pm