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Australians are being converted to Islam by eating halal meat, claims MP

Australians are being converted to Islam by eating halal meat, claims MP

A WA Liberal MP has claimed Australians are unknowingly being converted to Islam by eating Halal meat. In a speech to Parliament yesterday, backbencher Luke Simpkins said most Australians did not know that most of the meat they ate came from animals killed in accordance with Muslim law.

“By having Australians unwittingly eating Halal food we are all one step down the path towards the conversion, and that is a step we should only make with full knowledge and one that should not be imposed upon us without us knowing,” Mr Simpkins told Parliament. “What is happening is wrong. Too often the minorities in this country are looked after without regard to the majority.”

Mr Simpkins said he had carried out an unofficial survey in his northern-suburbs electorate of Cowan and had discovered that most meat at major chains such as Coles or Woolworths had been killed under Halal conditions, but had not been labelled as such.

He tabled a petition demanding that all Halal meat be clearly identified, complaining people could not buy meat for their “Aussie barbecue” without the influence of the “minority religion”.

Mr Simpkins said that Mohammed the prophet of Islam had talked of how the religion could be expanded around the world by getting people to eat Halal meat. “He reportedly said, ‘The non-believers will become Muslims when, amongst other things, they eat the meat that we have slaughtered’. This is one of the key aspects to converting non-believers to Islam,” Mr Simpkins said.

The petition tabled by Mr Simpkins had been organised by the Barnabas Fund, an organisation that supports Christians living in Muslim countries.

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen said Opposition Leader Tony Abbott should pull Mr Simpkins into line. “All members of Parliament should be looking to promote understanding and harmony between religions. Mr Simpkins has done the complete opposite,” he said.

Western Australian, 25 November 2011

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  1. the main difference is that a prayer is spoken acknowledging the life being taken, and the blood is removed more completely from the flesh.

    anyone afraid to eat meat that has been killed without terrorizing the animal first (as happens in usual butchering methods which taints the meat to some extent) should try to understand eating the meat will not really steal your soul…… remember you were once afraid to have your picture taken for the same reason and you are fine with cameras now……………………….. are you not the same people who feel the animals should be treated more humanely? who feel animals deserve more respect? Now the idea of Muslims treating the animals with respect even when killing it for food is offensive to you????

    I believe the real issue is that you are afraid of things you do not understand. That is not a problem, it is normal, maybe you could ask one of the meat processing plants give a detailed account of the changes that had to be made in the butchering of the animals you would have a chance to fully understand. It would remove the fear of the unknown aspect…. and you could make an informed choice about if you wish to eat the meat.
    I also believe the meat industry should have made sure the people were educated about what changes were being made, and allowed their customers input… you deserve to be allowed an educated choice….. they could have kept one or two poultry processors that decapitated the poor bird while removing it’s feathers instead of having someone speaking a prayer to it calmly as they ended it’s life without panic.

  2. OH FOR GOD”S SAKE! So if we eat Kosher meat or use Kosher salt does that make us all Jewish?

  3. This is laughable. I’d be willing to wager that Mr. Simpkins has eaten kosher food and not known it. The symbol doesn’t typically use the word “kosher.” Does that mean Mr. Simpkins in now a Jewish? (If it were that easy to be Jewish, there would be a lot more of us). Does he also beleive that being a vegetarian makes you a vegetable; that wearing a necklace and earrings makes you a woman; tat simply going to church makes you a saint; and that if a Muslim ate a Communion wafer,(s)he would then become Catholic?

  4. It works the same way as how eating Kellogg’s Corn Flakes turns people into Seventh Day Adventists!

  5. That someone could really believe that there is a conspiracy to covertly convert all Australians to Islam by making them eat Halal meat is really quite ridiculous. It makes no difference to a person how the meat is slaughtered unless you believe it makes a difference. It likely makes more difference to the animal…

  6. NIT WIT>

  7. Are there any elections coming up soon in Australia?
    I guess Mr Backbender lol (your name is funny just like your level of intelligence). well do not worry, just go eat your kangourou meat. you can strangle your animal with a rope first,I guess that is more human!

  8. No offense, man, but that’s just rediculous. People charge a good 2 or 3 dollars more for halal meat than for regular, so these people are going, paying a Muslim employee to hand slaughter the meat in accordance to Islamic tradition, then sniggering behind their hands at the unwitting new reverts while they eat that extra money? Just to put this in perspective, if they sell 100 halal steaks every day for a year forgoing this profit they are loosing around $91,250 every year.

    But then again most politicians think Muslims are idiots.

  9. Someone needs to cook him up some brains, quick.

  10. so does anyone actually know what makes something halal. and i don’t mean the broad strokes, how about some detail. catt can you educate me on the process. from birth to slaughter. is it true that if the cut is too shallow or too deep the animal is discarded. doesn’t sound to “respectful” too me to waste an animal’s life and food like that to me?

    anyways i think the reason crazy christians might be concerned is the same reason some muslims might be concerned. that the name of another god is invoked. so if i slaughter an animal and say “in the name of jesus christ, the way the truth and the light” would that not make the animal haram? so i don’t understand that if muslims can say we don’t want to eat that. why can’t christians say “we don’t want to eat anything that has had the name of the god of muhammad invoked during slaughter.” personally i bless all my food in the name of zues. but i’ll eat kosher, halal, i don’t even care if you slaughter it in the name of satan.

    the hypocracy amoung the abrahamics is hilarious.

  11. Oh my Goodness Salim you actually answered a question without insulting anyone and posted a link that was worth reading at the same time. I knew there was hope for you.

    Mike: I have no ceremony when I kill animals for food. Not that I do it as much as I used to. Not to insult anyones beliefs but I never kill anything using or invoking the name of God. We have been given stewardship over the animals of the earth which, to me, means that we can eat them but we should also not cause undue suffering or pain when it can be avoided.

  12. @m2:

    Christians and Muslims worship different gods? If they do, then that would mean Jews and Christians worship different gods. The God of Jews and Muslims is the same (maybe described differently in terms of behavior). If a Christian would eat kosher food (just the Messiah did) then he/she would also eat halal food.

    Christians recognize that the one they call the “Father” worshiped by Jews and Muslims is God. However, Muslims and Jews do not recognize Jesus peace be upon him as God. Therefore, what would technically be acceptable for them would be “shirk” for us.

    Sincerely,

    S.A. Muhammad Khan

  13. @m2:

    A Summary of what happens:

    Animal is not shown the knife, and is coaxed. Knife is quickly drawn across animal’s throat, severing the jugular veins. Blood leaves the body (including the brain) quickly, and animal loses perception, not feeling the pain. Animal peacefully dies. Blood has been drained from the food (lowering the chances of infection). Also, God’s name is invoked when slicing the animal’s throat, to thank Him for blessing us with the food. I believe it is the same in kosher slaugher, Jews correct me if I am wrong.

    I do know that if the animal is pained in any way during the slaughter the food is rendered haram. What happens to it? I don’t know.

  14. //criley401 Thanks for having a little hope for me I really appreciate that Doc!
    Don’t take thinks personal however when I hear people speaking bad about Islam I have to speak out, I did not really insult anyone, I just name them according to what they portrayed themselves, so I guess I was not the one to blame! on the other hand we do not have the face to face download in here, so it is more irritating.

  15. skhan,

    i think some christians veiw their god, because of the whole jesus christ, trinity thing as different from the god of the jews or muslims. i think it’s splitting hairs personally, but you never know what’s going to upset some religious types. i got a little story for ya. in the 90s a friend of mine was getting married. he had a bachlor party in new orleans. there where about 15 of us and the first night we went out to dinner. he asked me to say grace. i thanked the farmers how raised the food, the slaughterhouse workers for “doing the dirt work for us”, truck drivers for transporting the food and the kitchen staff for preparing it and of course as a waiter set my food down, i thanked the waiters. (you can leave a smaller tip if you include them in your prayer, jk) amen.

    while one of his new friends i didn’t know, started yelling at me. that that wasn’t a proper grace. you have to mention god. so anyways i’ve seen first hand people getting upset over what words are said over their food.

  16. http://www.jewfaq.org/kashrut.htm

    “Contrary to popular misconception, rabbis or other religious officials do not “bless” food to make it kosher.”

  17. I have talked to people who do not believe that Muslims worship the same God as Christians. The ones I talked to simply believe the Koran leads them away from the true god and into a series of beliefs that are, by definition, unchristian. Thus to believe in and Follow the Koran precludes the individual from worshiping the one true God as the Bible was given to man by God. Jews are believed to Worship the one true God as they follow the Torah which is basically the Old Testament they simply refuse to believe that Jesus is the son of God and was sent to die for our Sins.

    As a Christian I do not believe in the Holiness of the Koran or that it was inspired by God. If I believed this then I would not be a Christian but a Muslim so do not go getting all upset at my beliefs. I do, however, believe that Ishmael is the oldest Son of Abraham and that God’s promise was extended to him and his people. Thus in the beginning both the Jew and Arab worshipped the same God and I have no reason to believe that has changed. The bible states that God loved Hagar and her son and stated that Ishmael would father 12 tribes and his line would be blessed. I also believe that this is where the eminity between the Arabs and the Jews started and it is destined to go on for as long as the world in its current state exists.

    The point is that Christians have many points of views and that we do not agree with each other on many issues except for the core belief. The more one pulls back (like a camera pull back) from the core belief that Jesus was the son of God and that the way to God is through him, more and more differences and interpretations come into view.

  18. Who knew al we had to do was give out halal meat and people would accept Islam. The saudi’s should stop selling oil and start producing meat to sell to the world, we could have world domination by 2013

  19. No more effect than eating a pork chop.

  20. What I read that at the meat plant or chicken plant they just play a recording of the muslim or jewish ritual words.

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