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A Lavish Feast: Hatemongers, Hypocrites, and the Hate Du Jour

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A Lavish Feast: Hatemongers, Hypocrites, and the Hate Du Jour

In a daring display of “investigative journalism,” Loonwatch was recently “outed” as a site, “pretty much exclusively concerned with exposing the perceived enemies of Islam…” This jealously guarded secret was previously known only to tech-savvy visitors clever enough to click the link to our About page:

Loonwatch.com is a blogzine run by a motley group of hate-allergic bloggers to monitor and expose the web’s plethora of anti-Muslim loons, wackos, and conspiracy theorists…..

Isn’t that a fancy way of saying pretty much the same thing?

Throughout the screed ”exposing” our “super secret mission,” there are numerous ludicrous and fact-less assertions, which have been refuted here and here. A garden variety bigot isn’t of much interest to us here, but amid the baseless accusations, fuzzy logic, and shameless self-promotion, there is a question that warrants a response:

Does Loonwatch really shun all criticism of Islam and immediately silence our critics by branding them as loons?

Similar accusations have been made repeatedly, against Loonwatch and other sites devoted to fighting Islamophobia. The short and simple answer is “no.” As American Muslim civil rights activist Ahmed Rehab has said:

One thing we must never allow is for the bad amongst us – terrorists, extremists, ideologues of exclusion and hate – to succeed in turning the rest of us against each other. We must condemn them, ostracize them, and disempower them. The way to do that is to strengthen our relations, and stand with one another. That is the only way to spell defeat for the agents of hate.

We must emerge from our comfort zones and stand together as one against all forms of violence, ignorance, and intolerance….

Islam should be subjected to its fair share of constructive criticism and we have said as much in a significant number of articles. In fact several of our writers have severely criticized the theological premises of certain violent and regressive trends within the worldwide Muslim community. The problem is that there’s nothing fair or constructive about the ocean of half truths and outright lies that are routinely spread about Islam and Muslims by a well-funded network of pseudo scholars, grassroots activists, media amplifiers, serial fabricators, and other assorted anti-Muslim crackpots.

Legitimate criticism is truthful, proportionate, and in accordance with fair standards.

One of our most popular recent articles, Fake Nigerian Christians Burnt Alive Photo Resurfaces on Facebook, exposes anti-Muslim bigot and serial fabricator Pamela Geller trying to pass off a photo from a tragic accident as an incident of Muslims burning Christians alive.

Legitimate criticism is truthful.

There is a constant barrage of  propaganda that says “Islamic terrorism” is the world’s greatest threat. Hate sites far and wide trumpet brash and baseless claims, which we routinely expose as lies: 17,000 “Islamic terrorist” Attacks Exist in Fevered Islamophobic Brains.

Yet meticulously documented statistics on the website Unknown News put the figures in proper context:

About 303 times as many people have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq than in the ghastly attacks of September 11, 2001.

More than 130 times as many people have been killed in these wars and occupations than in all terrorist attacks in the world from 1993-2004, according to data compiled by the US State Department.

Every life is sacred and precious, and reducing individuals to statistics is a grisly calculus. However, we must make the point that war consistently kills far more innocent civilians than terrorism. What justifies the myopic focus on the latter?

Legitimate criticism is proportionate.

Another favorite trick of anti-Muslim bigots is to cherry pick violent and intolerant passages from Islamic scripture and juxtapose them next to relatively peaceful passages from Jewish or Christian scripture. Loonwatch has a whole series of articles addressing this inconsistency: The Understanding Jihad Series: Is Islam More Likely Than Other Religions to Encourage Violence?

The most recent additions are here and here. We repeatedly expose this unfair tactic and insist that all religions be measured by the same set of standards.

Legitimate criticism is in accordance with fair standards.

Our mission is to expose the lies, exaggerations and double standards employed by anti-Muslim bigots, and our articles do exactly that. We advocate universal human rights, and refuse to give anyone a free pass.

We condemn all acts of terrorism and the killing of innocent civilians, no matter who is responsible.

No matter how many times we condemn terrorism, “critics” insist we haven’t condemned terrorism, and have even had the audacity to smear us a terrorist spin control network. It’s become almost laughable and reminiscent of a famous scene from the 1979 British comedy film, Monty Python’s Life of Brian:

Brian: …Will you please listen? I’m not the Messiah! Do you understand? Honestly!

Woman: Only the true Messiah denies his divinity!

Brian: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right, I am the Messiah!

Crowd: He is! He is the Messiah!

Will you please listen? We do condemn terrorism! Do you understand? Honestly! …

It’s time to resort to a more potent weapon: common sense. When some halfwit sets his underwear on fire in a failed terrorist attack, anyone with the slightest stake in the Muslim community instantly thinks, “Please, please…don’t let it be a Muslim!”

If it turns out the perpetrator is a Muslim, it is an unmitigated disaster for Muslims everywhere. Besides being morally repugnant, terrorism is self-defeating.

The 9/11 terrorist attacks paved the way for the US to bomb, invade, and occupy one Muslim country after another, including Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen. Syria and Iran may be next.  The Islamophobia that germinated in the aftermath of the attacks has rooted itself in the public imagination and continues to deepen and expand, despite the loons’ absurd claims it doesn’t exist.

The blatantly obvious, self-evident truth is that terrorism hurts Muslims and damages the fight against bigotry.

In fact, it’s hard to imagine anything that sets back the cause of fighting anti-Muslim bigotry more than a terrorist attack that is in any way associated with Muslims. The loons delight in reporting terrorist attacks because their interests are served, not ours. In fact, anti-Muslim hatemongers and outrage peddlers are so eager to publish news of “Islamic” terrorist attacks, they don’t even care if there are no Muslims involved, as we’ve reported here and here.

We condemn all acts of terrorism and the killing of innocent civilians, no matter who is responsible.

Our question to critics: Do you?

As Danios said in his recent articleWe’re at War!” — And We Have Been Since 1776: 214 Years of American War-Making:

The objects of American aggression have certainly changed with time, but the primary motivating factor behind U.S. wars of aggression have always been the same: expansion of U.S. hegemony.  The Muslim world is being bombed, invaded, and occupied by the United States not because of radical Islam or any inherent flaw in themselves.  Rather, it is being so attacked because it is in the path of the American juggernaut, which is always in need of war.

The evidence that radical Islam is the justification, but not the catalyst, for US invasions is simply historical precedent. Decades before the War on Terror, the late civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. spoke out against the war in Vietnam, and his words are no less relevant today:

As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through non-violent action; but they ask and rightly so, “What about Vietnam?” They ask if our nation wasn’t using massive doses of violence to solve its problems…and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without first having spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today: my own government…

This business of burning human beings with napalm, of filling our nation’s homes with orphans and widows, of injecting poisonous drugs of hate into the veins of peoples normally humane, of sending men home from dark and bloody battlefields physically handicapped and psychologically deranged, cannot be reconciled with wisdom, justice, and love. A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death…

The time has come for America to hear the truth about this tragic war. In international conflicts, the truth is hard to come by because most nations are deceived about themselves. Rationalizations and the incessant search for scapegoats are the psychological cataracts that blind us to our sins…

Even as we commemorate Dr. King’s eloquent and timeless truths, it seems we’ve missed his essential message.

The US dominates the world through military power, maintaining over 700 bases in more than 130 countries, and is still bombing and invading nations with impunity. How is it that we view Muslims as the ones who are exceptionally violent and hellbent on taking over the world?

pro·jec·tion

: the attribution of one’s own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people or to objects; especially : the externalization of blame, guilt, or responsibility as a defense against anxiety.

The US has been variously bombing and starving Iraqis for more than two decades, which begs the question:  What did the nation of Iraq ever do to the United States? The answer: nothing.

How is it possible to fixate on acts of terrorism while simultaneously ignoring the colossal crimes the US has visited on the once prosperous nation of Iraq?

dou·ble stan·dard

: a set of principles that applies differently and usually more rigorously to one group of people or circumstances than to another.

de·ni·al

: negation in logic

: a psychological defense mechanism in which confrontation with a personal problem or with reality is avoided by denying the existence of the problem or reality.

Iran hasn’t attacked another country in over 200 years. Even as the US threatens to launch a war against this relatively peaceful nation, many Americans continue to view their country as peace-loving  and standing firmly on the moral high ground.

What accounts for this resilient sense of self-righteousness?

pro·pa·gan·da

: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person

: ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one’s cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect

ra·tio·nal·ization

: to attribute (one’s actions) to rational and creditable motives without analysis of true and especially unconscious motives.

de·lu·sion

: a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs.

How can our critics remain virtually silent on the Western violence and simultaneouslyassert, ”Loonwatch is protecting Jihadists and terrorists through lies of omission.”

hy·poc·ri·sy

: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion.

Defense mechanisms and relentless propaganda are the “psychological cataracts” that embolden us to criticize others and remain blind to our own faults. Refusal to take a good look in the mirror is also a lie of omission.

We condemn all acts of terrorism and the killing of innocent civilians, no matter who is responsible.

Again, our question to critics: Do you?

Of course, the so-called “counter-jihadists” could reasonably argue that they too have a limited focus, and are, “pretty much exclusively concerned with exposing the truth about Islam…” That’s fine, as long as their criticism is truthful, proportionate, and in accordance with fair standards.

Read the following excerpts and decide if they constitute hate speech or merely tell the unvarnished truth about Islam:

The cultured peoples, both today and in the past, create and build, proving their worth as the creators and advancers of culture. Islam was and remains only the corrupter and destroyer of culture… Islam can never be great, can never create culture, for it is not a people, but rather only a corrupt mixture of inferior desert tribes with no national life or longing, with no proud and famous past.

And:

In this war for the very existence of the American people, we must daily remind ourselves that Muslims unleashed this war against us….

There is nothing cruder than the Muslim religious books: the Qur’an, the Sunnah, and the Hadith…The whole is a collection of ghost hunting and mysticism, blind cursing and the crassest egotism, an unimaginable superiority complex, sick perversity, the overturning of all natural laws, lust for murder, terror, and horror.

The Crusades, with their enormous sacrifices in the blood of northern peoples, were the result of Muslim insanity.

And:

One feels horror at the unique depravity of the Muslims, at the crimes they have committed, at the devilish hate they have from the beginning directed against all those who did not want to bow to the yoke of Islam! This horror becomes terror when one reads the Qur’anic writings and reads such outbursts of Muslim rage as one finds in the Sunnah and Hadith…..

The term “kafir” expresses the deep antipathy Muslims feel toward infidels. Despite its inferiority, Islam was able to survive over the millennia because of its satanic hatred against infidels.

Muslim hatred today is as strong as it ever was. He who does not submit is their enemy. The Muslim hates the enemy with all his heart and with all the strength of his satanic soul….

Deep and boundless hatred is an essential characteristic of Islam.

Now there is war! The Muslims forced us into a struggle for life and death. The war has forced us to give up much we formerly thought was necessary. It has also forced us to give up the “politeness” that in reality is a weakness. A boxer in the ring must use his fists to defend himself against his opponent. A fencer can only win when he uses his sword. We as a people will survive this war only if we eliminate weakness and “politeness” and respond to the Muslims with an equal hatred. We must always keep in mind what the Muslim wants today, and what he plans to do with us. If we do not oppose the Muslims with the entire energy of our people, we are lost. But if we can use the full force of our soul that has been released by the new crusade, we need not fear the future. The devilish hatred of the Muslims plunged the world into war, need and misery. Our holy hate will bring us victory and save all of mankind.

Common themes include the cultural inferiority of “desert tribes,” crude scriptures, boundless hate for infidels, unique depravity, a superiority complex, sick perversity, and lust for murder, terror, and horror. Muslims pose an existential threat, and their collective insanity is even responsible for the Crusades.

This is pretty standard fare for hate sites like Jihad WatchAtlas Shrugs, and Frontpage Magazine. Can you guess the source?

It’s a trick question because none of these excerpts came from contemporary hate sites. All are from articles published decades ago by Nazis. Every word in bold has been modified so the passages appear to refer to Muslims instead of Jews.

You can view the original versions herehere and here. We previously published an article comparing specific statements from pre-Nazi era Antisemitic propagandist Julius Streicher and Robert Spencer, here.

That brings us to the next part of the Loonwatch mission statement:

While we find the sheer stupidity and outrageousness of the loons to be a source of invaluable comedy, we also recognize the seriousness of the danger they represent as dedicated hatemongers…

Muslims have not (yet) been subjected to pogroms or rounded up en mass and herded into internment camps, and the point is to make sure that doesn’t happen. We have learned the lessons of history.

During the Nazi era, Antisemitic propaganda resonated with many “good Germans,” just as many “good Americans” once accepted slavery and thought of Native Americans as “savages.”  Everyone outside the lunatic fringe recognizes the monstrous injustices of the past, but far fewer have the moral fortitude to recognize and speak out against the socially sanctioned injustices of the present day.

Islamophobia is the hate du jour, and hatemongers and hypocrites are enjoying a lavish feast.

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24 Comments »

  1. The reason Pamela G used the wrong photo is because she is sloppy with her facts. Unfortunately, Nigerian muslims ARE killing Christians.

    There is no point in getting upset at the “loons” because they are pointing out atrocities being committed by muslims. Muslims tolerate and encourage an amazing amount of violent disorder and atrocity in their societies.

    I am quite convinced, simply by reading the words of muslims, even educated clean handed ones, that many muslims think that installing shariah based muslim theocracies worldwide would be real neat and who cares if lots of people die in the attempt.

    Time and again, muslims when asked to comment on a terrorist being arrrested will say, as they did about Alawki – oh he was such a good explainer of Islam!

    As for US wars, I think the constitution, the laws should be changed to make declaration of war more difficult. Historically, there is a pattern here. People from a country concerned – Iran, Iraq – lobby in DC for an invasion and make deals.

    Right after we invaded Iraq i walked into a store, the arab clerks were jubilant, i realize now they were probably shia who had fled to the US.

    You are on more solid ground pointing out the untruths being promulgated – rapes in Oslo, etc.

  2. Time to start dealing with the American Taliban (extreme right wing Christians).

  3. So should you rename the page Americans Against Any Religion BUT Islam? Oh wait…. that would be … never mind

  4. That is a question for Steve BTW

  5. That’s funny, Anon, you basically admitted you follow the beliefs and understandings of one who is so incredibly “sloppy with her facts” that she posted a false image of a BURNT TO DEATH HUMAN BEING to tie it to Muslim terrorism.

    What’s even funnier (read: disgustingly sad and pathetic) is that the enormity of such “sloppiness” is lost on you.

  6. @ anon:

    Guess what? Nigerian Muslims condemned terrorism in another article.

  7. Yes, muslims are always condemning and never getting the violent mobs under control. That is because the mobs, in killing non muslims, forcing them out of the area, are performing the ethnic cleansing that many muslims desire but are not frank enough to say so.

    Gee, that KKK is soooo bad, I would never dream of doing such terrible things, koff koff.

  8. oh yes! there are many hatemongers circulating about, here and offline, too. including a few page owners (present company excluded).

  9. Am thinking that all 3 Abrahamic religions exhibit hatred of others. Jews apparently think they are the chosen, best people. Christians think they are the light of the world and everybody should be a Christian.

    Muslims, the youngest branch of this, think that by intermittent massacres of their neighbors they will bring society under their theocratic heel.

    The only reason we’re not scraping corpses off the streets of NYC as they do in Nigeria, in India, etc. is that muslims here do not have the confidence to bring that off right now.

  10. Another good article by a muslim Aswany, over at Huffington post, dealing with Egypt.
    a quote:
    The idea is clear and important. The television sheikh makes a big scene if the police prevent a woman wearing the niqab in some Western country but doesn’t lift a finger if an Egyptian woman in niqab is molested, because she doesn’t belong to his group. The television sheikh can’t imagine that virtue exists outside his group. In his opinion you can’t have a conscience and condemn abuse unless you’re pious, and you can’t be pious unless you’re Muslim, and you can’t be pious unless you belong to the Brotherhood or the Salafists. Any injustice or violation of someone else’s humanity doesn’t much interest the sheikh.

  11. @anon:

    First you say we don’t condemn terrorism. Then when we do, you accuse us of “taqiyya” (even though you don’t explicitly call it that). I suppose when Christians condemn the distortion of Christianity that occurred under Nazi Germany, they must be lying, right? Or is it just that you are irrationally biased against Muslims. In another article (on Loonwatch, I believe), recent polls showed that American Muslims are less likely than American Jews and American Christians to encourage killing innocent civilians.

    “Muslims, the youngest branch of this, think that by intermittent massacres of their neighbors they will bring society under their theocratic heel.”

    No sir. The Qur’an respects the Ahl al Kitab (Jews and Christians) because they follow God’s previous revelations:

    “And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him do we submit.” [Quran 29:46]

    “Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of God during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin Al-Ma’rûf and forbid Al-Munkar ; and they hasten in (all) good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for God knows well those who are Al-Muttaqûn.”(3:113-115).

    “And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), those who believe in God and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before God. They do not sell the Verses of God for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, God is Swift in account.” ‘(3:199)’

    “Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” [Quran 2:62]

    “Say (O Muhammad ): ‘O people of the Scripture : Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but God, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides God.’” [Quran 3:64]

    Try reading the Qur’an instead of GeehadWatch/Atlas Drugs all the time.

    We do respect non-Muslims and their right to practice their religions. It is our religious obligation:

    “Say, ‘O disbelievers,
    I do not worship what you worship.
    Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
    Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
    Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
    For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.’” [Qur’an 109]

    The Qur’an says that idol worship and polytheism are the worst sin(s) possible, since they associate others with the Creator. And yet, the Qur’an commands Muslims:

    “And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.” [Qur’an 6:108]

    You state that Muslims do not take actions against terrorism. This is patently false. Ahmad Shah Massoud was an Afghan Muslim and the leader of the Afghani Mujahideen who fought the Taliban and al Qaeda long before the U.S. cared. He warned the U.S. of an impending attack on U.S. in 2001. A few months later, he was assassinated by al Qaeda just 2 days before 9/11. The government of Saudi Arabia arrests terrorists of Saudi nationality, brings them back to the Kingdom, imprisons them, and then rehabilitates them and teaches them that Islam is a peaceful religion. The Sauds’ rehab program has been 90% successful. All al Qaeda leaders within Saudi Arabia have been captured and/or killed. The government of Iran condemned 9/11. It also helped the U.S. fight the Taliban in Afghanistan. Pakistan has also been a crucial ally in the War on Terror.

    Also, this site has articles with interfaith events and charities that Muslims participate in. This site also has articles with Islamic condemnations of terrorism and violence against non-Muslims. I’ve seen you trolling around on this site long enough to have noticed those articles. Try to actually read the content of this site.

    Your last comment was simply trolling. It does not relate to anything previously said. However I agree, you don’t have to be Muslim to be a good person.

  12. Skhan, it is possible to ignore everything that is going on. I know it must be irritating that the non believers keep bringing up current affairs instead of reading the Koran, but there it is.

    My last paragraph was a quote from the Aswany article at HuffPo.

    Massoud was a good man. Like many good men who try to speak a word of sense in muslim areas, he was killed. The violent theocratic movements sweep everything away. In search of purity, masses of humanity may perish.

    It disturbs me that the muslims cannot get this under control, it will have to run its course I suppose.

  13. Anon
    Well we muslims have a hard time coming together. Language barriers(indian and pakistani muslims who speak Urdu and Hindi), Arabs, Indonesians, etc. And thats just here. In the US, plus theres always tension. I guess they just forgot they were muslim and were supposed to be loving and open to everyone.
    But there are plenty of people going against those acts, the terrorism. Ahmad rehab, lupe fiasco (he does more against the war on terror) oh and boona mohammad sings beautiful nasheed about peace and Islam

    http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=Rprgi_pBeBo

    This is actually him rapping about Islam’s heroes, everyone from Sumayya the poor woman who refused to give up Islam and was killed for it, to Aisha the G scholar. (yes the prophets wife) most of them were men but he mentioned lots of wonderful muslimahs too.
    If it doesnt show its boonaa mohammad heroes

  14. Anon
    Just read it, please. I can promise you it will not be a waste of time.

  15. Elle, if you are keeping up with the news, you will see that a number of people who have given up Islam, or been acused of blasphemy against it, have been killed. Muslim countries are turning into theocratic hells similar to the Spain of Torquemada.

    I have read most of the Koran.

  16. All scriptures are open to interpretation, and may be twisted to fit the desires and emotions of the interpreter.

  17. Anon

    Look at that lady nonie darwish. I see shes alive and well. I know many people who convert to Islam are being jailed or killed overseas and its sad. For whatever reasons they converted, from hatred of a person who hurt them (who called themselves muslim in nonies case) to desire to drink (a man i kno) its not right to me but to kill them? Unless they are planning a deadly attack against us we have no right to hurt them.

    I believe its because Islam in its purity is seen as weak and breakable. Why is the Taliban nuts? They misinterpreted the Quran. Thats an example. And yu know the saying, any ignorant person can find a biblical verse to back them up. Same with Muslims. My own family does that. Of course they arent violent, but its usually something small like gossip or money.
    Thats why we believe the bible and torah were changed, people wanted more out of them.

  18. Anon

    Also, as you hopefully will see when you watch the news, we have our own revolutions starting up. Mubarak, ali, gaddafi, theyre all gone and hopefully Asad will be too. Were fighting our governments. I think its a sign the Day of reckoning is coming.

  19. I think what is happening is that the people are throwing off the dictators and looking for a “pure” system of government.

    They will install theocracies and then suffer the consequences of having a gov. that thinks it is God. The theocrats are organized and violent. They will simply kill anyone who stands up for human rights. Under God, one has no rights, only obligations.

  20. Oh your an atheist? Hm.

    Well pure indeed, but i think not, because these countries all have christian, muslim, atheist, and Jewish inhabitants. I think its gonna be secular because they fear of turning out like Saudi Arabia. How i hate that blasted gov. And while i hate the ideaof israel attacking iran (cuz its obvious they dont have nuclear weapons, that is Israel after all they boast strongest military in the world) but i still dislike Irans government.

  21. Well anon im proud to say that i dont extremely dislike you anymore. I dont trust you, i still dont like you that much, but i feel a sense of mutual respect growing.

    But dont flatter yourself.

  22. I am not an atheist. A theocracy based on any religion is going to be poison to the mental, intellectual and even physical lives of its citizens. The more religion, the flatter the country. Tibet, what goes on there? Constant prayer and…..?

    The muslims will establish theocracies and then ethnic cleanse the non muslim inhabitants. I’m not dreaming this, it is going on right now. Non muslims are fleeing and being killed and you know it.

    You don’t understand how inimical your theocratic religion is to everyone else because you think it is a wonderful thing that everyone should live under. You do perceive that SA and Iran are bad places to live. Why?

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