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Buffalo: 2 Women Sentenced for Hate Crime Attack on Muslim Woman

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(BuffaloNews)

LOCKPORT — Two women from Niagara Falls were sentenced to weekend jail terms Friday for their hate crime assault on a Pakistani woman last summer.

Niagara County Judge Sara Sheldon Farkas ordered Sheree A. Sabater, 39, to four months of weekends in the County Jail and three years’ probation. Antoinette S. Ivey, 32, drew two months of weekends in jail and five years’ probation.

The 26-year-old Muslim victim, who was walking with her two children July 14 near the Tops Market on Portage Road in Niagara Falls, was wearing a head scarf at the time, police said.

“This woman and her two children were just minding their own business,” Farkas said. “These two drunk, high, out-of-control women, and I use that term loosely, pummeled her to the ground in front of her children.”

The victim said in a later Buffalo News interview that she heard one of the attackers say, “She’s Pakistani and I want to kill her.”

The nationality was just a lucky guess, Assistant District Attorney Cheryl L. Nichols said.

“I didn’t know who she was,” Ivey said in court.

Sabater said, “I feel foolish.”

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  1. Just a WEEKEND! I am speechless!

  2. good…aasshats! WTF is wrong with people? Wouldn’t that be a hate crime? Throw the book at them.

  3. good…aasshats! WTF is wrong with people? Wouldn’t that be a hate crime? Throw the book at them.

  4. good…aasshats! WTF is wrong with people? Wouldn’t that be a hate crime? Throw the book at them.

  5. good…aasshats! WTF is wrong with people? Wouldn’t that be a hate crime? Throw the book at them.

  6. Those women got off lightly. If a Muslim woman had assaulted a non-Muslim, you can bet Homeland Security would have whisked her away for questioning.

  7. Had they attacked a jewish woman, it wouldn’t be just a weekend.

  8. PLEASE OH PLEASE don’t think we’re all like that. I’m from the Western NY area, and these “women” DO NOT REPRESENT US!

  9. Apparently one cannot plead drunkenness and get away with assault in the US as one can in the UK. The ethnicity of the perps in this case is interesting.

  10. @Donna: they got 4 months of weekends. and many years of probation. Not mearly enough, but moire than a weekend

  11. Apparently doesn’t always equal bliss. This makes me sick.

  12. Apparently doesn’t always equal bliss. This makes me sick.

  13. Apparently doesn’t always equal bliss. This makes me sick.

  14. oh great, that where im from x(

  15. oh great, that where im from x(

  16. @Nina: me too! I’m from Lockport originally, and you know as well as I do these bitches do NOT represent us!

  17. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/12/syria-al-nasra-extremist-islamist-bombing_n_1511580.html

    “”We tell this regime: Stop your massacres against the Sunni people. If not, you will bear the sin of the Alawites. What is coming will be more calamitous, God willing,” it said.”

  18. Exactly, they do not represent anyone but evil hateful people. I’m a young white woman in a country full of racists, and just know that some of us stand up for everyone. Black, Latino, Jewish, Creole, u name it, I’m against the hating of them. They should get sent to a Muslim country to be dealt with more severely. Probation is an outrage

  19. Exactly, they do not represent anyone but evil hateful people. I’m a young white woman in a country full of racists, and just know that some of us stand up for everyone. Black, Latino, Jewish, Creole, u name it, I’m against the hating of them. They should get sent to a Muslim country to be dealt with more severely. Probation is an outrage

  20. @Diana Sodeman: lol What does that mean “sent to a Muslim country to be dealt with”? Anyway, good to see some people aren’t just swallowing what the media feeds them. Thank you.

  21. @Diana Sodeman: lol What does that mean “sent to a Muslim country to be dealt with”? Anyway, good to see some people aren’t just swallowing what the media feeds them. Thank you.

  22. @Megan: well at least it’s better than one weekend… but not even close to enough for what they did…

  23. It’s totally disrespectful for a man unmarried to a woman to touch her.

  24. I see being hateful makes you beautiful too….

  25. America has decided that we must go through these lessons every few years in order to feed the mean machines of industry. Poor, drugged-out losers aren’t our biggest problems however loathsome it seems. Without someone to hate, it’s hard to justify genocide. Genocide is what we do best it seems. It permeates all classes too.

  26. I am a bit relief with the decision, at least punishment is there for such people! @ Megan-Nina-Diana – yes I agree not all are like this, you c, there are always very few bad persons who left majority ashamed. As a Muslim I also feel the same when some one do bad things and we all are encircled and left only with ooh please ohh !

  27. They assaulted a mother in front of her children. They did get off lightly. I am not big on lawsuits in this suit-happy society, but there should be a civil case and damages awarded. What do men get for assault? Years, and these women got off very easy indeed!

  28. Sentences should have been more harsh. Considering the probable IQs of these idiots, there is no sense in trying to educate the stupidity away…..

  29. I don’t think genocide has ever been the US aim. We don’t go to war to kill as many ________ as possible, as the Germans did.

    I think the US should rewrite its laws for declaring war.

    The perps were drunk and looking for an easy vic. Wonder what time of day it was. What kind of neighborhood.

  30. I too think their sentces were somewhat light, but for the one woman to say “I feel foolish” shows that she at least has an inkling of what she did. I think she’ll get more thank an inkling after spending some weekends in lockup.

  31. We need to keep them locked up for life, douchebags reproducing at alarming rate that is the main problem.

  32. Punishment is a warning that such behavior won’t be acceptable.

  33. Punishment is a warning that such behavior won’t be acceptable.

  34. Scumbags.

  35. Just one more example of the growing trend of anti- immigrant violence in the US.

  36. “America has decided that we must go through these lessons every few years in order to feed the mean machines of industry.” what lessons? do you mean the military industrial complex eisenhower spoke off?

    “Poor, drugged-out losers aren’t our biggest problems however loathsome it seems.” no doubt

    “Without someone to hate, it’s hard to justify genocide. Genocide is what we do best it seems.” so why haven’t we eliminated any genome from the planet? why are there still japanese on the planet? how is it there are like 80 million germans?

    speaking of people to hate. here is what one of “the rightfully guided caliphates” did.

    Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:

    Narrated ‘Ikrima:

    Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”

  37. Narrated Abu Huraira:

    A man came to Allah’s Apostle and said, “Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward).” He replied, “I do not find such a deed.” Then he added, “Can you, while the Muslim fighter is in the battle-field, enter your mosque to perform prayers without cease and fast and never break your fast?” The man said, “But who can do that?” Abu- Huraira added, “The Mujahid (i.e. Muslim fighter) is rewarded even for the footsteps of his horse while it wanders bout (for grazing) tied in a long rope.”

    http://www.faithinallah.org/sahih-bukhari-book-52-jihad/

    check this out for military industrial complex, of GOD!!!!!!

  38. Poor mike,
    still as uneducated as ever. Even authentic hadeeth are not an excuse to kill people who leave Islam. Ibn Abbas did not record any hadeeth where Muhammad actually said this. Nor are there any Hadeeths were Muhammad executed anyone simply for leaving Islam (and more importantly in the Quran). The fact that u still post these online is proof u are the same as the women in this article.

    U seem to at least know about the Caliphs. U should also know that those who left Islam did so to join the enemies of Islam. When Ibn Abbas quoted was a penalty from Muhammad to those who commit treason, by fighting against the Muslims. HE NEVER punished atheists who did not fight Muslims. What’s the penalty for treason in the USA? Oh thats right ur a hypocrite so you wouldnt know. Its the death penalty.

    Quran 2:265
    “There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong…”

    If you don’t read verses in context, like the one with Jihad, srry but u will probably end up like the drunks mentioned. Trying reading verses before and after in context, to see how a lot of Christians lie about 4:89 or 9:5 in the Quran, and see if I’m wrong.

  39. muhammad bennet,

    what’s up? as, MCA, an appearent favorite to this website once said, “i gotta run for da border, the sheriff is after me for what i did to his daughter, i did it like this, i did it like that, i did it with a wiffle ball bat, sooooooo i’m on the run, the cops got my gun, now it’s about time to have some fun,”

    i’m a bit drunk but let’s see if i can disect this. luckily i just got a black and mild so i have to take my time regardless.

    “Poor mike,” yeah i’m still poor. oh well.

    “still as uneducated as ever.” no doubt there. i’ve failed out of brown and uf. but i do have degrees from spjc and usf. it matters not.
    “Even authentic hadeeth are not an excuse to kill people who leave Islam.” from your lips to god’s ears. so what is the point of hadiths? are they not examples for muslims to follow? is ur boy the only reporter of authentic hadiths. so are not sahih-bukhari and sahih-muslim acceptable books of hadiths? i hope not?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%60Abd_Allah_ibn_%60Abbas

    “Ibn Abbas did not record any hadeeth where Muhammad actually said this. Nor are there any Hadeeths were Muhammad executed anyone simply for leaving Islam (and more importantly in the Quran).” so you are a koran only muslim? so you do support the opening of ther 24th surah?

    “The fact that u still post these online is proof u are the same as the women in this article.” really. so not agreeing with a philosophy is equvilent to attacking someone. seriously???????????

    “U seem to at least know about the Caliphs. U should also know that those who left Islam did so to join the enemies of Islam. When Ibn Abbas quoted was a penalty from Muhammad to those who commit treason, by fighting against the Muslims. HE NEVER punished atheists who did not fight Muslims.” well that’s a poorly written hadith then to say the lest. i see no mention of fighting anyone?
    “What’s the penalty for treason in the USA? Oh thats right ur a hypocrite so you wouldnt know. Its the death penalty.” yes i’m familiar with the penalty of treason in the us, and i disagree with it. i used to be pro-death penalty, but since dna evidence has come out i’m against it.

    “Quran 2:265
    “There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong…”” the right course has become clear from the wrong? so you know the wrong??????????

    “If you don’t read verses in context, like the one with Jihad, srry but u will probably end up like the drunks mentioned. Trying reading verses before and after in context, to see how a lot of Christians lie about 4:89 or 9:5 in the Quran, and see if I’m wrong.” all right i’m on it

  40. my bad.

    “If you don’t read verses in context, like the one with Jihad, srry but u will probably end up like the drunks mentioned.” i doubt that. despite being drunk right now. the problem is the muslims who blow things up in the name of allah.
    “Trying reading verses before and after in context, to see how a lot of Christians lie about 4:89 or 9:5 in the Quran, and see if I’m wrong.”
    all right i’m on it. shit how many verses before and aft do i have to read. i know 4:86 has something to do with greetings? right if someone greets you, you should return a better greeting?

  41. Mike, quoting verses, hadiths, etc. to muslims is like nailing jello to a tree, or herding cats. They will yak about context , authenticity, etc. This thing has been massaged for centuries.

    Suffice it to say that somehow someone who gave instructions on how to divide booty and bang slave girls emerges as the ultimate moral guide, the best and kindest of men.

    Practices can be amended, the theory wails on and on….

  42. from muhammad asad’s translation and explaination of the koran: 4:88 They would love to see you deny the truth even as they denied it, so that you should be like them. Do not, therefore take them for your allies until they forsake the domain of evil for the sake of god, and if they revert to open enmity, seize them and slay them whenever you may find them. and do not take any of them for your ally or giver of succuor.

    wow too much typing.

  43. i’ve read the entire 4th surah. what is your point?

    4:88

    فما لكم في المنافقين فئتين والله أركسهم بما كسبوا أتريدون أن تهدوا من أضل الله ومن يضلل الله فلن تجد له سبيلا

    What is [the matter] with you [that you are] two groups concerning the hypocrites, while Allah has made them fall back [into error and disbelief] for what they earned. Do you wish to guide those whom Allah has sent astray? And he whom Allah sends astray – never will you find for him a way [of guidance].

    4:89

    ودوا لو تكفرون كما كفروا فتكونون سواء فلا تتخذوا منهم أولياء حتى يهاجروا في سبيل الله فإن تولوا فخذوهم واقتلوهم حيث وجدتموهم ولا تتخذوا منهم وليّا ولا نصيرا

    They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.

    4:90

    إلا الذين يصلون إلى قوم بينكم وبينهم ميثاق أو جاءوكم حصرت صدورهم أن يقاتلوكم أو يقاتلوا قومهم ولو شاء الله لسلطهم عليكم فلقاتلوكم فإن اعتزلوكم فلم يقاتلوكم وألقوا إليكم السلم فما جعل الله لكم عليهم سبيلا

    Except for those who take refuge with a people between yourselves and whom is a treaty or those who come to you, their hearts strained at [the prospect of] fighting you or fighting their own people. And if Allah had willed, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them.

    4:91

    ستجدون آخرين يريدون أن يأمنوكم ويأمنوا قومهم كل ما ردوا إلى الفتنة أركسوا فيها فإن لم يعتزلوكم ويلقوا إليكم السلم ويكفوا أيديهم فخذوهم واقتلوهم حيث ثقفتموهم وأولئكم جعلنا لكم عليهم سلطانا مبينا

    You will find others who wish to obtain security from you and [to] obtain security from their people. Every time they are returned to [the influence of] disbelief, they fall back into it. So if they do not withdraw from you or offer you peace or restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you overtake them. And those – We have made for you against them a clear authorization.

    i disbelieve. should i not be worried. there is no god but….sorry no but there….there is no god!!!!!!!!!

    “HE NEVER punished atheists who did not fight Muslims.” i see no mention of treason in the hadith? but he did kill people for adultry, and torture people for having sex. come on you remember this conversation? your prophet is a torturer.

  44. Yes, Mike, that’s the part where they think they are going to seize and slay the rest of us when they don’t like what we’re doing and how they are not supposed to be friends with us. I have seen all this massaged on other sites.

    It doesn’t really mean what it means, you see…..on and on. Herding cats.

  45. anon,

    always a possibility. jello to a tree. that’s a good one.
    but your civil union thing is non-sensical.

  46. 9.1] (This is a declaration of) immunity by Allah and His Apostle towards those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement.
    [9.2] So go about in the land for four months and know that you cannot weaken Allah and that Allah will bring disgrace to the unbelievers.
    [9.3] And an announcement from Allah and His Apostle to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah and His Apostle are free from liability to the idolaters; therefore if you repent, it will be better for you, and if you turn back, then know that you will not weaken Allah; and announce painful punishment to those who disbelieve.
    [9.4] Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [9.6] And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people who do not know.
    [9.7] How can there be an agreement for the idolaters with Allah and with His Apostle; except those with whom you made an agreement at the Sacred Mosque? So as long as they are true to you, be true to them; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
    [9.8] How (can it be)! while if they prevail against you, they would not pay regard in your case to ties of relationship, nor those of covenant; they please you with their mouths while their hearts do not consent; and most of them are transgressors.
    [9.9] They have taken a small price for the communications of Allah, so they turn away from His way; surely evil is it that they do.
    [9.10] They do not pay regard to ties of relationship nor those of covenant in the case of a believer; and these are they who go beyond the limits.
    [9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know.
    [9.12] And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly) revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief– surely their oaths are nothing– so that they may desist.
    [9.13] What! will you not fight a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the expulsion of the Apostle, and they attacked you first; do you fear them? But Allah is most deserving that you should fear Him, if you are believers.
    [9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.
    [9.15] And remove the rage of their hearts; and Allah turns (mercifully) to whom He pleases, and Allah is Knowing, Wise.
    [9.16] What! do you think that you will be left alone while Allah has not yet known those of you who have struggled hard and have not taken any one as an adherent besides Allah and His Apostle and the believers; and Allah is aware of what you do.
    [9.17] The idolaters have no right to visit the mosques of Allah while bearing witness to unbelief against themselves, these it is whose doings are null, and in the fire shall they abide.
    [9.18] Only he shall visit the mosques of Allah who believes in Allah and the latter day, and keeps up prayer and pays the poor-rate and fears none but Allah; so (as for) these, it may be that they are of the followers of the right course.
    [9.19] What! do you make (one who undertakes) the giving of drink to the pilgrims and the guarding of the Sacred Mosque like him who believes in Allah and the latter day and strives hard in Allah’s way? They are not equal with Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.
    [9.20] Those who believed and fled (their homes), and strove hard in Allah’s way with their property and their souls, are much higher in rank with Allah; and those are they who are the achievers (of their objects).

    i make no agreement with you. nor do i pay the zakat. nor do i bow down to your god or any other. i seek no protection from you. i don’t why a pacticule 4 months a sacred? i still don’t know why there aren’t 13 – 28 days months in a year? with an extra day obviously?????????

    “[9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.” you sound like mullah omar????????

    seriously?????????? this is what you breakout as an example of the religion of peace????????

    dongo….see why i find this site fun????

    i have missed you mr bennet.

  47. srry “i don’t “know” why” but like i said i’m drunk. muhammad, that gets me 80 lashes.

    Volume 8, Book 81, Number 764:

    Narrated Anas bin Malik:

    The Prophet beat a drunk with palm-leaf stalks and shoes. And Abu Bakr gave (such a sinner) forty lashes.

    ________________________________________

    Volume 8, Book 81, Number 765:

    Narrated ‘Uqba bin Al-Harith:

    An-Nu’man or the son of An-Nu’man was brought to the Prophet on a charge of drunkenness. So the Prophet ordered all the men present in the house, to beat him. So all of them beat him, and I was also one of them who beat him with shoes.

    ________________________________________

    Volume 8, Book 81, Number 766:

    Narrated’ Uqba bin Al-Harith:

    An-Nu’man or the son of An-Nu’man was brought to the Prophet in a state of intoxication. The Prophet felt it hard (was angry) and ordered all those who were present in the house, to beat him. And they beat him, using palm-leaf stalks and shoes, and I was among those who beat him.

    ________________________________________

    Volume 8, Book 81, Number 767:

    Narrated Anas:

    The Prophet lashed a drunk with dateleaf stalks and shoes. And Abu Bakr gave a drunk forty lashes.

    ________________________________________

    Volume 8, Book 81, Number 768:

    Narrated Abu Salama:

    Abu Huraira said, “A man who drank wine was brought to the Prophet. The Prophet said, ‘Beat him!” Abu Huraira added, “So some of us beat him with our hands, and some with their shoes, and some with their garments (by twisting it) like a lash, and then when we finished, someone said to him, ‘May Allah disgrace you!’ On that the Prophet said, ‘Do not say so, for you are helping Satan to overpower him.’ ”

    ________________________________________

    Volume 8, Book 81, Number 769:

    Narrated ‘Ali bin Abi Talib:

    I would not feel sorry for one who dies because of receiving a legal punishment, except the drunk, for if he should die (when being punished), I would give blood money to his family because no fixed punishment has been ordered by Allah’s Apostle for the drunk.

    well that’s mighty nice of him??????????????????lol

    guess that is why arabs think throwing shoes is some sort of great insult?????????????????????????????????????????????

  48. Volume 9, Book 84, Number 64:

    Narrated ‘Ali:

    Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah’s Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.”

    http://www.faithinallah.org/sahih-bukhari-book-84-dealing-with-apostates/

    all this reward for killing may explain all the killing?

    jello to a tree, huh? where you there when they crucified my lord, where you there when they nailed him to a tree.

  49. If we discuss present day problems and behaviors we may come up with solutions.

    If you start quoting Koran, hadiths, you will be: A. accused of gross ignorance B. plunged into a medieval scholasticism, a never never land of philosophical twisting and turning, fantasies of perfection which never existed, mountains of denial, an endless roundabout something like Jarndyce vs Jarndyce.

    Stick to something like: the society is killing women and minorities, what can be done about it. The law is so weak even good laws can’t be implemented. What can done about that.

  50. gotta pull the weed out by the root. i’m gonna get this jello to hang. didn’t i see them herd cats in a commercial once. during a superbowl i think? lol.

    “What can done about that.” simple. seperation of religion and state.

  51. http://www.onislam.net/english/shariah/hadith/hadith-scholars/448362.html
    so you have read all 1600 of his hadiths? impressive.
    “The number of the Traditions narrated by Ibn `Abbas is about sixteen hundred.”

    “Ibn `Abbas raised many scholars in every branch of religious knowledge. The School of Makkah, in jurisprudence, was founded by him.” let’s see what his school of jurisprudence says?

  52. can’t find a school of mecca? this guy is hilarious though?

    http://www.myheartmakkah.com/schools-of-jurisprudence-abu-usamah-adh-dhahabi.html

  53. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

    work against, is that the same as treason?

    “The Qur’an itself does not prescribe any earthly punishment for apostasy; Islamic scholarship differs on its punishment, ranging from execution – based on an interpretation of certain hadiths – to no punishment at all as long as they “do not work against the Muslim society or nation.”[1] The majority of Muslim scholars hold to the traditional view that apostasy is punishable by death or imprisonment until repentance, at least for adult men of sound mind.[2][3] Several contemporary Muslim scholars, including influential Islamic reformers have rejected this, arguing for religious freedom instead.[4][2][5][6] According to Islamic law apostasy is identified by a list of actions such as conversion to another religion, denying the existence of God, rejecting the prophets, mocking God or the prophets, idol worship, rejecting the sharia, or permitting behavior that is forbidden by the sharia, such as adultery.”

  54. u a follower of hanafi

    “The hanafi jurist Sarakhsi also called for different punishments between the non-seditious religious apostasy and that of seditious and political nature, or high treason.”

  55. the more you read the funnier it gets.

    “In modern times, some Islamic scholars, including Wael Hallaq, state that apostasy laws are not derived from the Qur’an.[11] Several modern scholars oppose any penalty for apostasy, including Gamal Al-Banna,[5][12] Taha Jabir Alalwani,[13], Ahmad Kutty of the Islamic Institute of Toronto[6] and Shabir Ally.[14] Quran Alone Muslims do not support the apostasy penalty, citing verses from Qur’an which advocate free will.[15]

    Others believe that the death penalty can only be applied when apostasy is coupled with attempts to “harm” the Muslim community, rejecting the death penalty in other cases. These include,[1][16][17] Ahmad Shafaat,[18] Jamal Badawi,[8] Yusuf Estes,[19] Javed Ahmad Ghamidi,[20] and Maliki jurist Abu al-Walid al-Baji.

    Indian preacher Zakir Naik stated that if a former Muslim speaks against Islam then that is considered as treason and punishable by death in a country ruled by Islamic law. He also stated that he does not know of any country which is ruled by 100% Islamic law.[citation needed] However, in a 2011 address to the Oxford Union he stated that death is not the “standard punishment” for apostasy.[21] [22][23][24] The former view is held by other contemporary Islamic scholars such as Bilal Philips,[25] and Yusuf al-Qaradawi,[26] the latter reduces the punishment to imprisonment till repentance in the case of an apostate who did not proclaim apostasy,[27] whereas the judgement which is still widely adopted advocates death for every ex-Muslim, for instance, Muhammad Al-Munajid the owner, writer and administrator for the popular islam-qa.com site advocates that judgement stating that leaving them alive “may encourage others to forsake the truth”.[28]”

    the islam-qa guy is hilarious. you should read his stance on whether islam was spread by the sword.

  56. just weekends? They should sit there in jail a lot longer…have someone beat on them for a while for the way they look… see how they like it

  57. just weekends? They should sit there in jail a lot longer…have someone beat on them for a while for the way they look… see how they like it

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