Monday, December 5, 2016   

  Home     About     Guest Editorials     Advertise     Blog     Site Map     Links     Contact      Subscribe RSS      Subscribe Email  
Home » ThinkProgress

Bachmann: Muslim Brotherhood Has ‘Penetrated’ The U.S. Government

23 June 2012 ThinkProgress 20 Comments Email This Post Email This Post

Bachmann: Muslim Brotherhood Has ‘Penetrated’ The U.S. Government

by Eli Clifton (ThinkProgress)

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) is no stranger to outlandish conspiracy theories but the former GOP presidential primary candidate took her theories to a new height in an interview earlier this week with the American Family Assocation’s Sandy Rios. Bachmann claimed that the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated various department of the U.S. government.

Bachmann told Rios (HT RightWingWatch):

It appears that there has been deep penetration in the halls of our United States government by the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood has been found to be an unindicted co-conspirator on terrorism cases and yet it appears that there are individuals who are associated with the Muslim Brotherhood who have positions, very sensitive positions, in our Department of Justice, our Department of Homeland Security, potentially even in the National Intelligence Agency. I am calling upon the Justice Department and these various departments to investigate through the Inspector General to see who these people are and what access they have to our information.

Listen to her (HT RightWingWatch):

 

Bachmann’s bizarre conspiracy theorizing about a “penetration” of the U.S. government matches closely with the conspiracy theories espoused by Center for Security Policy (CSP) President Frank Gaffney who in recent months has found himself ostracized by mainstream Republicans for his accusations about a Muslim Brotherhood infiltration of the George W. Bush and Obama administrations as well as the American Conservative Union.

Gaffney’s role in advising Bachmann’s presidential campaign on foreign policy matters was noted by The New Republic last year and her ties to the CSP president were reaffirmed in a letter sent from her — as well as Reps. Trent Franks (R-AZ), Louie Gohmert (R-TX), Thomas Rooney (R-FL), and Lynn Westmoreland (R-GA) — to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice and the Department of State. The letter, which cites Gaffney’s Muslim Brotherhood In America website,dated June 13, reads [PDF]:

We deem it imperative that your office conduct an investigation of the extent to which [Muslim Brotherhood] influence operations may have contributed to a fundamental misunderstanding of the Muslim Brotherhood by U.S. intelligence — which could, in turn, have contributed to the policy community’s susceptibility to subverstion at the hands of the Brothers and their allies.

In her radio interview, Bachmann went on to charge that such influence has been used to “blacklist” FBI and military trainers who have been accused of espousing deeply Islamophobic views. Indeed, the FBI and Joint Chiefs of Staff appear to have decided that Islamophobic teaching materials — for example, one recently suspended teacher at the Joint Forces Staff College called for a “total war” on Islam — should hold no place in government counterterrorrism training. While anti-Muslim advocates like Gaffney have fewer allies in government, they appear to have a steadfast ally in Rep. Michele Bachmann.

Share/Bookmark




20 Comments »

  1. so do muslims here support the muslim brotherhood? shouldn’t you celebrate muslim brotherhood influence in america. how about the eqyptians electing the muslim brotherhood canidate? is that a good thing?

  2. Michelle is absolutely correct; The Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the White House. His name is Barack Obama.

  3. It is easy to make baseless claims, but where is the proof? Give me a name and establish the connection. This witch hunt trying to find Muslim extremist in everyone who holds a different opinion that you is dangerous your everyone’s liberties in this country. LoveThem, the drone program under Barak Obama has increase greatly compared to Bush. And who are the targets? MUSLIMS in Pakistan, Yemen, and Africa. Please don’t let your hate make you that blind. I hope that you are just parroting what you hear on Fox and don’t actually believe the drable (don’t have a better polite word for it) coming out of your mouth. As far as the MB in the Egyptian elections, that is one of the best things that could have happened IF they actually work on unifying ALL Egyptians, and ensuring equal rights as they have promised. If you knew the history behind the Al-Qidas of the world, and how they subscribed to the extremist, nationalist rhetoric of a Muslim Brotherhood member who radicalized AFTER his years of torture at the hands of the Military leadership of Egypt. And how his ideas inspired violent means to overthrow governments. By Mr Morsi winning a democratically held election, and thereby peacefully being able to effect change, that will set the example for many others. Especially considering the violent resistance/change has not produce any beneficial results. The world should be happy that this opportunity has been given to the exact people who 50 years ago were being hunted down, tortured and killed. And it came about peacefully. I just pray they make the most of the situation and show the world that they can be an example for the rest of the Middle East to follow. Inshaa Allah.

  4. I think the impulse toward theocracy is too strong, and all these countries will go through a theocratic period. The E. military still has a lot of power and have restricted Morsi before he even gets started. There is quite a bit of secular thought in Egypt I think.

    People are not as naive as they were back when Iran formed an islamic state. Shirin Ebadi, an educated, intelligent person, had no idea rights would be abolished and she would be removed from the bench just because she was a woman. She had been brought up to think Islam was a perfect, wonderful system full of justice and peace.

    Theocracy in practice is very different from the dream of God’s laws running the country. In any theocracy, the country’s leaders will presume to speak for God, and minority faiths will be trampled if not murdered outright.

  5. The problem seems to be that, yes, as a Muslim I want to live in a country which bases it’s laws on the Qur’an and Ahadith. But, you (anon) seem to be correct. Man (imperfect) tends to mess up God’s perfect system. Yes, I said perfect system. Or at least as close to perfection as we can get in this world. If we (Muslims, I can’t speak for all) didn’t see the beauty in Islam as a complete way of life then we wouldn’t try to establish it. Like Shirin Ebadi. Islam is perfect and a wonderful system. It is men who get greedy, don’t let themselves be transformed by Islam, oppress and repress. Islam was not meant to be static and stuck in the 7th Century, and educated Muslims know this. But at the same time it must still remain faithful to those principles that God establish this way of life on. That does not mean that Islam can not grow. And that has been one of the problems. People want to restrict it to only their understanding of it and close the door to ijtihad. This has directly resulted in a group of Pharisaic scholars which have strangled the life out of Islam and turned it into series of rituals and laws, with no soul. Islam does not need to be changed. Peoples understanding of Islam need to change. Sorry for the soap box moment.

  6. Let me make the point that I am in no way denouncing the Scholars. They are truly the inheritors of the Prophet (saaw). But some self serving ones have caused a great fitna.

  7. Rashiyd Abu Ali,

    “Islam was not meant to be static and stuck in the 7th Century, and educated Muslims know this.” that’s good to hear.
    “But at the same time it must still remain faithful to those principles that God establish this way of life on.” so that means what?
    ” Islam does not need to be changed. Peoples understanding of Islam need to change” you really confuse me. but i’m often told i don’t undersand.

    so does this growth in your fiqh arbogate stoning as a form of punishment? how about lashing? how do you translate zina? can huhud be changed/grow?

    i’ve been told that afghans and somalis are definately smarter than me. are they as educated as you?

    check out these numbers.

    http://pewresearch.org/databank/dailynumber/?NumberID=1184

    “Yes, I said perfect system.” i won’t shake my head at you. too busy scratching it.

  8. There is an opinion by some scholars that the hudud of stoning was abrogated. I believe it was. This is the only case where the Islamic jurists have used a hadith to supersede an ayah of Qur’an that I am aware of. The punishment should be 80 lashes, not stoning. And even with that there are jurist and scholars who would look at the intent of the punishment and would deduce different punishments, such as fines or jail. I also agree with this understanding.
    There are many people smarter than me. And smart does not necessarily equal correct.
    Get some Head & Shoulders. Do you think God created man as an amusement? Do you think He created us and then just said, ah, they’ll figure it out!? They have reeeasooon. God create mankind to worship Him and to know Him. He sent a series of Prophets and Messengers to mankind to guide them. The instructions He sent them with are what we should be basing our laws off of. They contain universal truths which do not change with time. Have you studied the evolution of our Constitution and our views of equality in this country? We have only recently (in the last 40 years) gotten it close to right. The Constitution is by far the best man-made form of law history has seen to date. But it is still only man-made. The apple flavored candy you eat may be sweeter, and even taste better than a real apple. But that real apple was created to be a benefit for you in ways that the imitation could never do.

  9. “There is an opinion by some scholars that the hudud of stoning was abrogated. I believe it was.” by the 24th surah? yeah i’ve heard that.
    “This is the only case where the Islamic jurists have used a hadith to supersede an ayah of Qur’an that I am aware of. The punishment should be 80 lashes, not stoning.” but i think it is 100 lashes. 80 for bearing false witness or drunkeness. so you agreed with muhammad asad’s translation of zina meaning both fornication and adultry.
    “And even with that there are jurist and scholars who would look at the intent of the punishment and would deduce different punishments, such as fines or jail. I also agree with this understanding.” i guess that is some growth. but i think most non-muslim would argue that neither sex or adultry is a crime deserving either jail or a fine.
    “There are many people smarter than me. And smart does not necessarily equal correct.” tru dat.
    “Get some Head & Shoulders.” lol. i don’t think dandruff is the problem. i have no hair. maybe to god’s amusement.
    “Do you think God created man as an amusement? Do you think He created us and then just said, ah, they’ll figure it out!? They have reeeasooon.” no i believe in evolution, not god.
    “God create mankind to worship Him and to know Him.” so i’ve heard. you sound like a catholic again.
    “He sent a series of Prophets and Messengers to mankind to guide them. The instructions He sent them with are what we should be basing our laws off of.” that’s scary. you ever read deutoronomy? leviticus?
    “They contain universal truths which do not change with time.” now you seem stuck in the 7th century? so none of these prophets outlawed slavery? you don’t find that odd?
    “Have you studied the evolution of our Constitution and our views of equality in this country? We have only recently (in the last 40 years) gotten it close to right.” yes that is true. and we are still working on it. but that is the beauty of the constitution. it isn’t stuck in 1783. it can be amended. sometimes poorly, prohibitiion for example, but then it can be re-amended.
    “The Constitution is by far the best man-made form of law history has seen to date. But it is still only man-made.” funny you chose an apple for your analogy. lol.
    “The apple flavored candy you eat may be sweeter, and even taste better than a real apple. But that real apple was created to be a benefit for you in ways that the imitation could never do.” so you are infavor of replacing the constitution (the candy) with sharia (an apple).
    speaking of the constitution and apples, wasn’t ben franklin who said “an apple a day, keeps the doctor away”?

    24:1

    سورة أنزلناها وفرضناها وأنزلنا فيها آيات بينات لعلكم تذكرون

    [This is] a surah which We have sent down and made [that within it] obligatory and revealed therein verses of clear evidence that you might remember.

    24:2

    الزانية والزاني فاجلدوا كل واحد منهما مائة جلدة ولا تأخذكم بهما رأفة في دين الله إن كنتم تؤمنون بالله واليوم الآخر وليشهد عذابهما طائفة من المؤمنين

    The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse – lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah , if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.

    http://www.islamrevolution.org/fornicationadultery.htm

    still i don’t think divine revelation would call for torture of any kind.

  10. so god start with stoning people to death with abraham, or moses? then sent jesus as a prophet, who said he who is without sin, cast the first stone. the god sent his last prophet who stoned people?

    Volume 8, Book 82, Number 810:

    Narrated Jabir:

    A man from the tribe of Aslam came to the Prophet and confessed that he had committed an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet turned his face away from him till the man bore witness against himself four times. The Prophet said to him, “Are you mad?” He said “No.” He said, “Are you married?” He said, “Yes.” Then the Prophet ordered that he be stoned to death, and he was stoned to death at the Musalla. When the stones troubled him, he fled, but he was caught and was stoned till he died. The Prophet spoke well of him and offered his funeral prayer.

    Volume 8, Book 82, Number 816:

    Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:

    ‘Umar said, “I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, “We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book,” and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession.” Sufyan added, “I have memorized this narration in this way.” ‘Umar added, “Surely Allah’s Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him.”

    you see why i scratch my head?

  11. Until angels come down to rule over us, gov. will be done by humans. Humans are sinful, foolish, criminal, etc. and even worse when they think they speak for God. Nothing quite as bad as a man who thinks he’s good.

  12. “i guess that is some growth. but i think most non-muslim would argue that neither sex or adultry is a crime deserving either jail or a fine.”
    Have you heard about a group of women who wanted to be able to sue the “other woman” for breaking up their homes? No. Most non-Muslims don’t see these as crimes deserving fines or jail. But they do see the effects of fornication and adultery.
    Hmmm. Evolution!?
    http://en.harunyahya.tv/en/watch/1245/The_collapse_of_evolution
    Yes I have read Deuteronomy and Leviticus, but I am referring to the Qur’an.
    “…now you seem stuck in the 7th century”
    All men are created with the inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Is this just as true today as it was in 1776? How about feed the poor, help the oppressed and downtrodden. Live for something bigger then yourself. Islam came with principles of kindness, mercy and justice which often get over looked by the mindless mayhem of extremism.
    “so you are infavor of replacing the constitution (the candy) with sharia (an apple).”
    As I said, this is not my decision. If the people of the US chose to enact laws which were in line with Shari’a they would have to get there congressmen and women to vote on that. And as I said, that would mean that the majority of Americans were Muslim or saw the benefit of Islamic law. Not likely, but not impossible.

    As to your last point. I am not a scholar or a jurist. I only strive to be a good Muslim, and yes, a good American. I try my best to understand my religion. That being said.
    No hadeeth can supersede a verse of Qur’an. No narration of a companion, even ‘Umar (RA) can supercede a hadeeth of the Prophet (SAAW) or a verse of Qur’an. The Fuqaha (jurists) would/should take that and other evidence into account when establishing Shari’a and it’s huduud.

  13. Yes, we notice how well the poor are fed and the downtrodden are lifted up in muslims countries. What exemplars of kindness and justice they are! Barf! Will someone ever align the dream with reality so that you don’t sound completely delusional?

    There used to be legal penalties in US for adultery and other morals crimes, but they were cluttering up the court system and were designated as sins. They cause disruption, and bring their own punishment.

  14. As I agreed to before, the Muslims world in general is in a dire state. I consider this to be our Dark Ages. There are numerous parallels. But, as I also said. Just because man is messing up the religion (or more correctly, not practicing it) doesn’t mean the religion is wrong.

    Have you heard of Indonesia? You do know that The Muslim world is more than just the Middle east and Afghanistan/Pakistan right?

  15. There are plenty of stories coming out of indonesia. A theocracy based on any religion is going to be bad for human rights. One has no rights before God, only obligations. The basic problem is the gov. thinks it is God.

    Everyone thinks his own religion is “right” and other religions are crazy. After years of conflict, other nations discarded the idea of theocracy and the muslim countries will eventually also.

  16. Um, Indonesia does not have a Shari’a based government. So how is it a Theocracy?

  17. Indonesia has people in it working for theocracy.

  18. Rashiyd Abu Ali,

    yeah we all know that indonesia the largest muslim population in the world. you do know who JI is? there are muslims in the southern philipines as well. fighting. there are muslims in somalia, nigeria, mali. do you know who the uighurs are? muslims in chechnya. there are muslims in the west, on planes, trains, buses and automobiles. sometimes in night clubs in bali, that’s in indonesia.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCCyK87hH9M

    you might be right about this dark ages.

  19. there area muslims in banglidesh as well, right dongo.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxvjfE0_Eko

Have your say!

Add your comment below, or trackback from your own site. You can also subscribe to these comments via RSS.

Be nice. Keep it clean. Stay on topic. No spam.

You can use these tags:
<a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>