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CAIR asks Pentagon not to use target of Muslim woman, Quran in SEAL training

CAIR asks Pentagon not to use target of Muslim woman, Quran in SEAL training

A prominent national Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization today called on Pentagon officials not to use a target depicting a Muslim woman wearing a religious head scarf (hijab) and verses from the Quran in combat scenarios for training Navy SEALs at the new close quarters combat range at Joint Base Fort Story in Virginia Beach, Va.

The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said that military facility, referred to as a “kill house,” features a number of combat scenarios, including a mosque and a movable target of a Muslim woman wearing hijab and aiming a handgun. Verses from the Quran, Islam’s revealed text, are also displayed behind the target.

“Using a Muslim woman wearing a religious head scarf with [verses from the] Quran behind her as a target for our nation’s military personnel is offensive and sends a negative and counterproductive message to trainees and to the Muslim-majority nations to which they may be deployed,” wrote CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad in a letter to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta. “This is yet another example of why the Department of Defense needs to fix what appears to be an ongoing problem by consulting credible scholars and experts to review all training and training materials related to Islam or Muslims.”

CAIR press release, 29 June 2012

See “Fort Story range creates combat scenarios for SEALs”,Virginian-Pilot, 26 June 2012

And “Group criticizes image of Muslim woman on SEAL range”,Virginian-Pilot, 29 June 2012

 

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  1. Why is Hamas-tied CAIR even lecturing the military?

  2. Fucky Whore,

    My hellbitch, when will you stop regorging your period through your mouth? The Hamas-tied CAIR is lecturing the military just like the rightwing motherfucker Christian clerics are using the military. You say US is a free country. Though I don’t support so much fucking freedom and maintain that the degree of freedom must be restrained by some check and balance, according to US laws, the CAIR has done nothing wrong. What if the military were using Christian symbols or verses from Bible? Would you then tie them to crusaders/KKK

  3. Dongo, you’re the bitch. You liberals hate our troops. You would rather defend a group that is an apologist for suicide bombers. You are a supporter of Nidal Hasan and Carlos Bledsoe. You Democrats are the KKK, the party of RObert Byrd and Margaret Sanger. Radical Islam is against freedom, especially cartoonists and women.

  4. Fucky Whore,

    Why make mistakes. I am a hellbound hellhound. So, I can’t be a bitch. I belong to no political party. So, I am neither liberal nor democrat. I am a Muslim. So, I can’t be a KKK supporter. Remains Nidal Hassan: I just want to kick that psychotic bastard into shark filled swimming pools. Understand? Your government has put him behind the bars though.

    There is nothing called moderate/radical/extremist Islam. We already have devastating divisions within ourselves. Please do not create anymore divisions.

    But you radical Christians will continue your bloodthirst as long as you can abd defend it too. When someone else does anything wrong or tries to challenge you, that is crime. Down with your freedom, shame on your troops. I don’t fuck your idealism.

  5. The scenario is inside a mosque, what would you expect to find inside a mosque?

  6. US troops are forbidden from targeting or entering Mosques. So, Jane, you’re an idiot. Liberals hate troops???? Thats funny because conservatives are the ones always sending us to die on bullshit missions claiming its “securing our freesoms.” What a crock of shit. I cant wait until the Republican party vanishes into extinction just like the Whigs.

  7. “US troops are forbidden from targeting or entering Mosques”

    So if a situation develops in a mosque and hostages are taken nobody will go to help?

  8. Jane,

    How could you say this was done in a mosque? Were you present there or invited by someone to be present there?

    The picture above may be a US ploy. I am giving two examples: recently two “Muslim” terrorists were “captured” who have been revealed to be US and UK spies respectively. I believe this was a very tough shoeslap on the so-called pride and honour of the US. It is my request to common and sensible American people to ask their government to be utmost careful while committing crimes. Otherwise, not only shall they be in jeopardy but their credibility will be in dire straits making them a laughable object everywhere. I also doubt if US governments have any shame or remorse at all. Possibly not.

    From my little knowledge I can say this was not taken from a mosque. Why? Allow me to explain. The decor of this place is not that of a mosque. Barely hanging something written in Arabic does not make anything a mosque. This lady with a gun in hand is not a real one rather a cardboard/paper statue. And you may be knowing that icons and statues are no way allowed in mosques.

    Please do not jump to a sweeping conclusion out of plain hatred. This may put you into deep troubles.

    Yours

    Tarzan

  9. dongo, it would help us all if you read the article, particularly this bit:

    “a number of combat scenarios, including a mosque”

  10. Jane,

    I have read it. But I wrote for replying you when you said “The scenario is inside a mosque, what would you expect to find inside a mosque?”

    Got me?

  11. Jane,

    I have read it. But did you? The article says ‘The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said that military facility, referred to as a “kill house,” features a number of combat scenarios, including a mosque and a movable target of a Muslim woman wearing hijab and aiming a handgun. Verses from the Quran, Islam’s revealed text, are also displayed behind the target.’

    In your post timed “1 July 2012 at 6:06 am”, you said that “The scenario is inside a mosque, what would you expect to find inside a mosque?” whereas in the article it is clearly mentioned that it is a scenario and you mentioned that too. So, how could you say that the scenario is inside a mosque? Ain’t you contradicting yourself? And you suggest me to read the article?

  12. Dongo, the scenario is inside a mosque.

    Which bit are you struggling with?

  13. Jane,

    May be/may not be. If yes, I should say this is a very nasty ploy of the US. If not, then I ask you again: Were you present there or invited by someone to be present there?

    I am not struggling with anything. But you are: trying to buttress a stinky deed and holding onto your third-rate reasoning.

  14. Hey Rocks for Brains,
    CAIR doesn’t support Hamas. Those allegations were false and unproven. You what is proven? Bachman, openly took bribes from terrorists in Iran. I don’t hate my country. I just think conservatives are what will destroy this country. Ppl who believe their country can do no wrong will end of the way the Germans did.

  15. CAIR does support al shabbab apparently, it told US muslims who were complaining about it to shut up.

    People who think their fellow religionists can do no wrong will end the way the germs did too.

  16. “US troops are forbidden from targeting or entering Mosques.” so if people are shooting at our troops from a mosque, they can’t return fire. maybe that is why we are losing these wars.

    “referred to as a “kill house,” features a number of combat scenarios, including a mosque and a movable target of a Muslim woman wearing hijab and aiming a handgun. Verses from the Quran, Islam’s revealed text,” if it is a house where you learn to kill, wouldn’t you call it a kill house? yeah so why have a combat scenerio “including a mosque” if you aren’t allowed to go into a mosque? who is setting up these training exercises? at least the target is “moveable”. these articles crack me up.

    “Islam’s revealed text,”

    The Slanderer
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

    [104.1] Woe to every slanderer, defamer,
    [104.2] Who amasses wealth and considers it a provision (against mishap);
    [104.3] He thinks that his wealth will make him immortal.
    [104.4] Nay! he shall most certainly be hurled into the crushing disaster,
    [104.5] And what will make you realize what the crushing disaster is?
    [104.6] It is the fire kindled by Allah,
    [104.7] Which rises above the hearts.
    [104.8] Surely it shall be closed over upon them,
    [104.9] In extended columns.

    watch out for the lake of fire.

  17. Mike,

    I will reiterate you but in a different tone: you suggest that it is right for US forces to target a mosque if they are being fired against from inside that. Therefore, they have the right to go inside, kill the attackers and vandalise it then and after.

    According to your reason then, I should say that Muslims or whoever feels offended at criticism of whatever s/he holds dear, must have the right to kill the offender (s), insert the freedom of speech into the vagina(s) and rectum(s) of the offender(s) and then prize up with a thorny iron mace in superhuman force up to the Last Judgement Day.

  18. Mike,

    N.B. The iron mace should be heated red at about 360 degress and freedom of speech should be prized up once inside the offenders.

  19. dongo,

    “US forces to target a mosque if they are being fired against from inside that.” yes. of course. i’m sure we destroyed many churches and shinto shrines in ww2. in fact i remember my grandfather telling me how they were told to avoid destroying churchs, especial old ones when going into gremany. but the germans had put an 88 in a church tower and took out the two lead tanks in front of grandpas. so his tank took out the tower as quickly as they could. in fact his tank was hit as well. but in it’s bulldozer scope they had mounted on the front. saved his life.
    “Therefore, they have the right to go inside, kill the attackers” absolutely, so if people are attacking you from a “sacred” building, what are you supposed to do?
    “and vandalise it then and after.” no you can’t vandalise it. but considering some people see it as a normal reaction to throw trash at people for their “hateful” words. if a guy just saw his buddy’s head blown off by a muslim sniper in a mosque, he may trash the place, throw some korans around in anger, but he shouldn’t. but if half your platoon we just wiped out in front of your own eyes, that might “explain” it.

    the problem is some people hold books and buildings as more sacred than human life.

    “According to your reason then, I should say that Muslims or whoever feels offended at criticism of whatever s/he holds dear, must have the right to kill the offender ” no, i’ve been saying the exact opposite consistantly. we are talking about bullets, propably not depleted uranium, but lead will cut through flesh like a hot knife through butter. especially fired from an AK-47. words won’t seperate your head from your body.

    the rest of your comment confuses me. so you hate freedom of speech??
    and your desire to see things inserted into body orifices is a bit disconcerting.

    M Bennett,

    “I don’t hate my country. I just think conservatives are what will destroy this country.” so you’re an american? how is it that your understanding of freedom of speech seems so european, at best? so what have the authorities said?

  20. If we did as muslims do we would have murdered muslims on the sidewalk after 9/11. We had been incited. Why is it westerners are always held to a higher standard of control than the muslims?

    They can get all excited and incited and go clobber/kill people and its just ok. If its muslims killing muslims, the muslims themselves shrug it off as part of the evil of the day.

  21. Mike,

    As usual of yourself; you use others’ writings as long as they suit you.

    Perhaps you did not notice my writing “I will reiterate you but in a different tone”. I don’t know what your grandpa did. But I condemn any desecration of any sacred place whatever may the reason be. US is the strongest country in the world. So, they could use any means to overwhelm the enemy hiding and attacking in and from holy places. When someone is easing bowels or eating a cheeseburger 20,000 leagues under the sea, even that is known through using satellites, so why not enemy combatants and their weaknesses?

    Moreover, what do you suggest Muslims to do when they see their own kind is wiped out at wholesale rates by non-Muslims?

  22. dongo,

    yeah i saw your “reiterate” sentence. not sure how i’m suiting myself? your full comment.

    “Mike,

    “I will reiterate you but in a different tone: you suggest that it is right for US forces to target a mosque if they are being fired against from inside that. Therefore, they have the right to go inside, kill the attackers and vandalise it then and after.

    According to your reason then, I should say that Muslims or whoever feels offended at criticism of whatever s/he holds dear, must have the right to kill the offender (s), insert the freedom of speech into the vagina(s) and rectum(s) of the offender(s) and then prize up with a thorny iron mace in superhuman force up to the Last Judgement Day.”

    yes i suggest, atually i will say out right that when someone is shooting at you from a building you can return fire. i don’t care what the designated use of the building is. not sure the whole point of the second part of your comment?

    “But I condemn any desecration of any sacred place whatever may the reason be. US is the strongest country in the world.” so if someone is raining artilery down on you from a church bell tower you should do what? just die i guess.

    “When someone is easing bowels or eating a cheeseburger 20,000 leagues under the sea,” dude, i’m starting to think you are insane?

  23. Mike,

    In such a case, I will use laughing/sleeping/tear gas to save the building from desecration.

  24. Mike,

    THe fighters inside a building would not have endless supplies. Sometimes theirs will wear down, right. When that occurs, I will go in and catch them. If there is any trap, or suicide bomber and tries to kill me, then I would order my ones to to wait until the stalemate is over and no matter if I die. But the place’s sanctity must be upheld.

  25. csbsf,

    we are i different worlds, dude. glad you’re not in charge of our military. how big is this perimeter you are going to create? we have shown too much patience with the taliban already. we aint got time for all that. siege warfare went out with the ramparts. “no matter if I die.” screw that blow the damn building to smithereens. drop a daisy cutter on it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiP7-HBHwPc

    speaking of ramparts, happy belated fourth of july.

    Oh, say can you see by the dawn’s early light
    What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming?
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars thru the perilous fight,
    O’er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
    And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
    Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

    On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
    Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
    What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
    As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
    Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
    In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
    ‘Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
    That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion,
    A home and a country should leave us no more!
    Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
    No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
    Between their loved home and the war’s desolation!
    Blest with victory and peace, may the heav’n rescued land
    Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
    Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
    And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.”
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    holy shit! where did all these others verses come from. must have been why we lost the war of 1812. we spent too much time writing poems. not enough time killing british.

  26. Mike,

    You spent time not only writing poems more and killing less Britons but you were also busy in taking others’ lands and settling White European rejects all over the whole continent (North and South)who by vitrue were all bloodthirsty monsters. Not only the imperialist bastards, but also the commoners that came were equally greedy and vicious. Also came the plague called “Christian Missionaries” to justify and ete4rnise the bloody occupation in the name of God(!?).

    But these did not make you giving up your greed. You got into a civil war. Then there came the southewestern expansion of the US in which you cut and paralysed Mexico into 45% of its former size.

  27. We offered to buy the Mexican territories but they wanted to war for them. We bought the middle part, Louisiana Territory, from the French.

  28. csbsf,

    yeah, i’m familiar. i have studied american history. we do that here in america. james k polk was on of our greatest presidents/blood thirsty monsters. last time i was in salt lake city, the mexican restaurant had a map showing the 65% of their land we took. absolut, the vodka had an add campaign a few years ago with the same map, but it was quickly pulled. don’t forget our conquest of the kingdom of hawaii. how about the rebuplic of west florida. bet you never heard of them. they didn’t put up a fight.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Florida

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