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Many Muslims join US military to kill fellow soldiers, says ‘terrorism expert’

David Gaubatz

David Gaubatz

Many Muslims join US military to kill fellow soldiers, says ‘terrorism expert’

A terrorism expert and author is warning of what he perceives as a threat to the U.S. military, and suggesting to lower that danger, Muslims not be allowed to enlist in the ranks.

Muslim Mafia” co-author David Gaubatz said on a recent edition of his counterterrorism radio program that because of a Muslim’s first allegiance to Shariah law, they are ill-fitted for the U.S. armed forces.

Gaubatz said a mosque leader in Knoxville, Tenn., reported many Muslims in the military believe that their fellow soldiers are the “enemy.”

“An Islamic leader at a mosque in Knoxville, Tenn., told me that many of the ‘friendly fire’ incidents were actually murders. He advised many Muslims are joining the military for outstanding training and to fight the enemy (their fellow troops),” Gaubatz said.

He said this alarming trend is the result of a reality that he has uncovered in his research: There are no “moderate” Muslims.

“The simple answer is, Islam itself (through Shariah law) mandates a Muslim to follow Shariah law 100 percent, and no man-made law can be placed before Shariah law,” Gaubatz said. “If a person does not follow Shariah law then they are a non-practicing Muslim and essentially an apostate of Islam.”

“That leaves only ‘true’ Muslims who follow Islam as dictated by prophet Mohammed 1400 years ago. A ‘true’ Muslim cannot put the U.S. Constitution ahead of Shariah law, and therefore one can’t faithfully serve in the U.S. military if the U.S. Constitution is not their number one priority,” Gaubatz said.

WND, 10 July 2012

Update:  See “Gaubatz repeats claim that US Muslim soldiers are murdering fellow troops and claiming ‘friendly fire'”,Bartholomew’s Notes on Religion, 10 July 2012

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  1. First, Let me start off by stating that I am a Muslim American who serves in our country’s military. And I have served honorably for that past 16 1/2 years. I’ve deployed three time to Iraq. I am tired of ppl trying to make Muslim Americans feel like this is not their country as well. I may not agree with the foreign policies, or even some domestic issues, but THIS is my home. It is the only home I know. It is the home of my parents, grandparents (not sure when my great-great-great grandparent arrived here from Western Europe on my mother’s side, and Africa on my father’s), and children.

    The argument that extremist join the military to get training is true of any terrorist. Not just Musllims, like Timothy Mcvey and other right-wing,anti-government Christians. He claimed that the fratricides in some of these cases was actually homicides. I think I know of three cases in which Muslims who were in the Army killed their fellow Soldiers. And all three of those cases were clear cut murder. What case(s) is he referring to that Muslim Soldiers allegedly killed their fellow Soldiers and covered it up as fratricide? More fear mongering.

    My belief in the Shari’a actually makes me a better American citizen. It enjoins me to protect my land (America) from outside attacks (al-qaida). It does not allow me to be extreme or passive. It tells me I am legally bound to my contracts (Oath of enlistment/re-enlistment). In fact, I would argue that it’s the people who are not following the Shari’a that you need to be worried about.

    Are there unique challenges to be Muslim in the military? Yes. But these challenges are similar to any other religious group the serves.

  2. If David Gaubatz is lying, how do you explain Hasan Akbar and Nidal Hasan?

  3. @ rocky

    “If David Gaubatz is lying, how do you explain Hasan Akbar and Nidal Hasan?”

    These are two of the three cases I was referring to. They were murders, not fratricides. They were never categorized as fratricides. He implies that there are fratricides taking place routinely that are actually Muslims killing their fellow Soldiers. Where are these cases?

    Below is a list of shootings that non-Muslim Soldiers committed. This is not an exhaustive list.

    Monday’s attack marks the sixth incident in which a service member was killed by a fellow service member since the launch of Operation Iraqi Freedom, the March 2003 invasion of Iraq.

    A U.S. soldier killed a member of his unit during a safety briefing at Fort Bragg in North Carolina on Thursday, then shot and wounded himself, the Army base said in a statement. Jun 28, 2012

    Army Charges 8 in Wake of Death of a Fellow G.I.:One night in October, an Army private named Danny Chen apparently angered his fellow soldiers by forgetting to turn off the water heater after taking a shower at his outpost in Afghanistan, his family said.

    Days after they sent the card, Army Spc. Richard Davis, a member of the Army’s 3rd Infantry Division, was killed. But he was a victim, not of war, but of murder, and police suspect it was at the hands of his fellow soldiers.

    Soldier arrested for alleged threats to kill wife, fellow officer
    Tacoma : WA : USA | Mar 13, 2012 at 11:31 PM PDT
    By Stephanie Ealy send a private message SelectMedia (would that have been an honor killing?)

    October 27, 1995
    Web posted at: 11:45 p.m. EDT
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    FORT BRAGG, North Carolina (CNN) — One soldier was killed and 20 others were hurt Friday when a sniper opened fire on an athletic field at Fort Bragg in North Carolina. The sniper allegedly fired on his unit as they prepared to start a morning run, a Fort Bragg spokesman said.

    Charles Joseph Whitman (June 24, 1941 – August 1, 1966) was a student at the University of Texas at Austin and a former Marine who killed 16 people and wounded 32 others (a total of 49 victims including himself) during a shooting rampage on and around the university’s campus on August 1, 1966.

    So, can we agree there are crazies in every group? or do we need to bar White people (all of the shooters list above were White, and I’m assuming Christian) from the military?

  4. we need more muslims in our armed forces. especially arabic and pashto speakers. and the cia and fbi need alot more. some farsi speakers would help too.

    so Rashiyd Abu Ali,

    you seem very reasonable. what do you think of rajm?

  5. I believe that this was done up until the time that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was commanded to change the direction of the qiblah from Jerusalem to Makkah, signifying the break from Judaism (God original Covenant through Issac to His new Covenant through Ishmael). Up until that time the Qur’an, being mostly Makkan Surahs, did not have a lot of verses dealing with Law. Stoning was from the original Scripture. When verses were revealed as to the new huduud (flogging in this case) that abrogated the tradition of Stoning. Umar ibn Khattab (RA)tells us that there was a verse at one point prescribing stoning. However, it has been abrogated, and is no longer there. What is there is flogging. This is one of many opinions on this subject, and the one that makes the most sense to me. The next issue becomes can a huduud be modified as long as it carries the same intent (a deterrent from committing evil). Some of the fuqaha say that it can be. So instead of flogging, you can impose fines, or jail. But we’ve had this convo before. You don’t believe that adulterer and fornicators should be fined or confined. I disagree, and see the rampant adultery and fornication of not only adults but of children in this country as being one of the many moral ills that is tearing at the moral fabric of our society. We are becoming a nation spiritually and morally bankrupt.

  6. http://islamic-replies.ucoz.com/2/Refute_Stoning_Adultery.html

    “What is the wisdom behind this type of abrogation? To test Muslims as to whether or not they would follow the sunnah and the Quran. Both are equally authoritative in terms of law, and this type of abrogation tests those who claim to be true Muslims”

    looks like this guy thinks you aren’t a true muslim.

    “The next issue becomes can a huduud be modified as long as it carries the same intent (a deterrent from committing evil). Some of the fuqaha say that it can be.” hum. i’ve always read that hudud was written in stone. so would a one dollar fine be considered a deterrent?

    “You don’t believe that adulterer and fornicators should be fined or confined.” no. i’m a libertarian. i believe in freedom. not confinement.

    semper fi. oh wait, your not army, are you?

  7. People are punished for adultery and fornication, just not by the gov. Go do some adultery and fornication and see what happens. Go break some more of the 10 commandments. See what happens.

  8. I believe that most people from the United States are loyal to the United States. Anyone that has any set of values can have a crisis of faith when serving in the military. After all, that service calls on individuals to kill others either individually or in groups. This has a tendency to bother people even if they make statements to the contrary. A Muslim may have a harder time for these current wars simply because the opposing side is compromised of mostly peoples of the Islamic faith. It does not, however, indicated they will not do their duty as required by their service in the United States Military. People said similar things about Catholics but they did their duty, and Christians have no problem at all warring against other Christian countries. There will be a few Muslims that will turn and do some damage to our military, but that has always been the case and risk we take with any group of people that hold strong beliefs. Our military needs to be vigilant but inclusive as our goal should be peace. For that to happen we need a wide range of people including Muslims. Their perspective is important in both understanding and helping to end this series of wars. If we exclude Muslim soldiers then it would look as if we were simply waging a war on Islam, that would be unacceptable to not only Muslims worldwide but to many Americans, including myself, as well.

  9. All the Muslims I have served with were not some jihad killing nuts, and neither was I we took an oath to serve and defend this country and we do.

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