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Burma’s monks call for Muslim community to be shunned

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A monk shows an anti-Rohingya slogan on his hand

A monk shows an anti-Rohingya slogan on his hand

Monks who played a vital role in Burma’s recent struggle for democracy have been accused of fuelling ethnic tensions in the country by calling on people to shun a Muslim community that has suffered decades of abuse.

In a move that has shocked many observers, some monks’ organisations have issued pamphlets telling people not to associate with the Rohingya community, and have blocked humanitarian assistance from reaching them. One leaflet described the Rohingya as “cruel by nature” and claimed it had “plans to exterminate” other ethnic groups.

The outburst against the Rohingya, often described as one of the world’s most oppressed groups, comes after weeks of ethnic violence in the Rakhine state in the west of Burma that has left more than 80 dead and up to 100,000 people living in a situation described as “desperate” by humanitarian organisations. As state-sanctioned abuses against the Muslim community continue, Burma’s president Thein Sein – credited by the international community for ushering in a series of democratic reforms in the country and releasing political prisoners such as Aung San Suu Kyi – has urged neighbouring Bangladesh to take in the Rohingya.

“In recent days, monks have emerged in a leading role to enforce denial of humanitarian assistance to Muslims, in support of policy statements by politicians,” said Chris Lewa, director of the Arakan project, a regional NGO. “A member of a humanitarian agency in Sittwe told me that some monks were posted near Muslim displacement camps, checking on and turning away people they suspected would visit for assistance.”

The Young Monks’ Association of Sittwe and Mrauk Oo Monks’ Association have both released statements in recent days urging locals not to associate with the group. Displaced Rohingya have been housed in over-crowded camps away from the Rakhine population – where a health and malnutrition crisis is said to be escalating – as political leaders move to segregate and expel the 800,000-strong minority from Burma. Earlier this month, Thein Sein attempted to hand over the group to the UN refugee agency.

Aid workers report ongoing threats and interference by local nationalist and religious groups. Some monasteries in Maungdaw and Sittwe sheltering displaced Rakhine people have openly refused to accept international aid, alleging that it is “biased” in favour of the Rohingya. Monks have traditionally played a critical role in helping vulnerable citizens, stepping in to care for the victims of Cyclone Nargis in 2008 after the military junta rejected international assistance.

Many have been shocked by the response of the monks and members of the democracy movement to the recent violence, which erupted after the rape and murder of a Buddhist woman, allegedly by three Muslims, unleashed long-standing ethnic tensions.

Monks’ leader Ashin Htawara recently encouraged the government to send the group “back to their native land” at an event in London hosted by the anti-Rohingya Burma Democratic Concern. Ko Ko Gyi, a democracy activist with the 88 Generation Students group and a former political prisoner, said: “The Rohingya are not a Burmese ethnic group. The root cause of the violence… comes from across the border.” Mark Farmaner, director of Burma Campaign UK, said: “We were shocked to have [Ashin Htawara] propose to us that there should be what amounts to concentration camps for the Rohingya.”

Ms Suu Kyi has also been criticised for failing to speak out. Amal de Chickera of the London-based Equal Rights Trust, said: “You have these moral figures, whose voices do matter. It’s extremely disappointing and in the end it can be very damaging.”

The Rohingya have lived in Burma for centuries, but in 1982, the then military ruler Ne Win stripped them of their citizenship. Thousands fled to Bangladesh where they live in pitiful camps. Foreign media are still denied access to the conflict region, where a state of emergency was declared last month, and ten aid workers were arrested without explanation.

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  1. Ok I was looking this topic up and found this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAPlj7anm1g

    It lists the anti Muslim riots in Burma but it has picts that have nothing to do with the topic. There are sentences and audio in Arabic but I cannot understand it. Can anyone here comment on what it is about. WARNING the video is graphic and can cause a combination of grief and anger. So do not let any kids watch it.

  2. The Bangladeshis are also running to other countries. Maybe there are simply too many people cramming into these areas.

  3. I watched the entire video and though I could not understand a word the man said, his voice in conjuction with the video generated a lot of emotion. Overall, I would say this man is a dangerous speaker who will influence a number of people. To what end I do not know, though is suspect violence as the video made me wish I could get up and do something though I know nothing about the issue the video was showcasing.

  4. I don’t get real sympathetic when I see muslims emoting over dead children and other massacre victims. They do too many massacres themselves.

    What i have read on other sites is that muslims are pouring into various areas, taking them over, killing the locals. Hm, what’s not to like?

  5. I do not agree with a lot of things going on in the Muslim world but I do not like to see any group of people being treated badly. However, there were so many scenes that were not Burma I could not tell what picts were taken when. Still its a strong propaganda piece. I hope these people get some help. Where are all these rich Muslim nations that should be tripping over themselves helping these people out.

  6. I think it is typical of a propaganda piece that unrelated photos, unchecked “facts” are presented. Sort of what Pam G does.

    There was a photo on net that purported to be US troops lounging disrespectfully in a mosque. Clumsy photoshop of heads and bodies, men not US uniforms, piece of nonsense.

    I have noticed that rich muslim nations don’t seem to be doing a lot of helping. Wonder what is happening with those wretched foreign workers in Dubai. Lots of wretchedness everywhere.

  7. Anon,

    Yes, we Bangladeshis are running into various countries. So? People from various countries run into other countries? Will you stop them? What is so special about Bangladeshis running? Is it prohibited?

    You must not get sympathetic (because when people like you do that, that is really pathetic) over seeing Muslims lamenting for the dead as they “themselves commit so many massacres”. Who is saying what, anon? Take a look at yourself; the saucepan should not call the kettle black. You are responsible for the worst massacres on earth and those still go on well. And you call Muslims committing massacres? Now you may claim that the Holocaust was done by Muslims! Nothing unusual for you.

    Muslims are taking over others’ lands and murdering locals? Well, I may point out to Indians. See Mauritius, Fiji and Suriname. Indians have not just deeply infected those places with their bullshit, third-rated and racist culture, but taken over them as well. In the late 1999 or early 2000s, when George Speight tried to oust Indians for their devilry, he was arrested and punished. This man in serving life sentence. You go to World Bank, IMF, UN, Google, NASA, Microsoft, virtually any world famous and important institute and organisation, you will find these racist, subhumanoid, thuggish bastard Indians holding good places. And that is not the end. Whenever they get to such positions, their first job is to recruit and enrich, however unjust that may be, as many Indians as possible. Then comes transfering useful, money-oriented projects and schemes to India as if there is no other country on earth and other people but Indians do not qualify enough to be called as humans.

    When the fucking bastard British took over the Mughal India, they suddenly realised (!?*) that Hindus of high caste were their forgotten brethren as they both spoke the so-called Aryan languages. If so, why not Afghans or Persians be relatives of the British? They also speak Aryan tongues. They are far more Europoid looking afterall. And share religions that have many things in common.

    So?

  8. So you don’t like Indians, Dongo? You want to massacre them?

  9. Is Bangladesh a feasible place for human habitation? Seems to be flooded badly every year.

  10. The actual history of Arakan is a messy string of back-and-forth regime changes. Kind of similar to Eastern Poland. The only “solution” that is likely to last forever is to separate the Rohingyas into a sizeable western district of Arakan, then annex it to Bangladesh. After all, the “Rohingya” have Bengali bodyforms; they speak Chittagonian Bangalee, and they are Muslims. Now, Bangladesh sacrificed the blood of its sons and daughters in 1971 so that it could be THE homeland of Bengali-speaking Muslims. So while it is UNDERSTANDABLE that they don’t want a new load of poor people dumped into their laps…. it’s their responsibility. The Rohingyas ARE a Bengali ethnicity. Anyone who reads the COx’s Bazar and Teknaf news knows it….

  11. >> When the fucking bastard British took over the Mughal India

    Well put. The problem (for you) is that the Muslim Arab missionaries did exactly the same thing…. they spread their religion and their rule by the sword. As far East as Indonesia and Mindanao. So it doesn’t really help you to blame history.

  12. Since in various muslim places muslims announce that this or that group must leave or convert or die, it is only logical that other places announce that muslims should be killed, shunned or thrown out.

    It is absurd to howl for the blood of others and then bleat about “persecution”.

  13. Anon can you please stop being a jerk? And btw Im a Muslim American from eight gens of Americans stop insulting countrys and being a prick people like you disgust me

  14. Anon,

    Listen craphead, I never howled for anyone’s blood unlike you and your incestuous ancestors. I don’t like Indians, whatever may they be. Though I have Indian ancestry, I never have felt any kind of emotion for them. What do they do? They are one of the worst lot on earth, in fact worse than Muslims because they have a long history of deception, greed, racism, murder and limitless sex. Just take a look at their scriptures, you won’t need to look to anyone else. You as well as your upcoming generations will forget what crime looks like but upper-caste/Brahminic Hinduism. You and your likes will also forget to howl that Islam and Muslims permit and condone violence.

    In 2011, when a Bangladeshi man and his daughter went to India for medical purposes, on their return, they were attacked by the Indian BSF. Now you don’t ask me what the BSF is. They killed the daughter and hung her deadbody over the border fence. Indian press (partly) condemned the act. Even a US senator and some commoners wept at the horrible scene. Yet, Indian think tanks called this a travesty and said that Bangladesh was playing the so-called victim card. In July 2012, when a cow trader went to India, during his return the BSF netted him from above a bridge and killed him with bayonets poking into him. For your divinely kind information, this bastard India has stood first in religious intolerance.

    Natural disasters are common for any country. Can you stop tnem. Why does your nation, the strongest military power (yet getting very hard shoeslaps from some petty thugs in Afghanistan and sucking shit in Vietnam), economy, education and science hub on earth suffer from wildfires? Why does it have a very high rate of rape? Why does England suffer from drought and Japan from earthquakes? Do these make them uninhabitable?

    When John Hunter was active in Africa, he noted that almost all crimes in Africa was done by Hindus. Similar things happened in England; the Hinduja brothers were involved in crimes. Yet that is no crime in your vision. Prful C Patel, a high official in WB, when active there, initiated tough measures against Bangladesh with no reason. And you did n’t answer my allegation rather jumped forward with your anti-Muslim venom. What about Indians committing devilry in other nations and making their own rich at the cost of others?

    Whatever liberal and just you may try to show yourself, your last post reveals your actual beliefs.

  15. Dongo, everyone has a long history of deception, greed, racism, murder and limitless sex. The best humanity can do is try to maintain order and not fall into total war.

    You seem to be extremely irritated at various groups.

  16. Dongo, are you related to Fabrice del Dongo, the man in Charterhouse of Parma who wanders onto the field of Waterloo?

  17. Yes, I am extremely irritated by various groups and people and their nasty acts as well. Is being irritated at nasty things a crime?

    If you say everyone has history of deception, greed, racism, murder and limitless sex, why are you only after Muslims? Others are also doing crime. The reality is those crimes very rarely come to light. And if they do, the criminals’ religious or national identity is rarely revealed, if at all. But when the criminal is a Muslim, wow, that creates a news to be broadcast indeed. The media will first pounce upon his/her faith (Islam) and then national identity (any Muslim nation). Say, that person is just 5’10” yet weighs 350 pounds. Now he has been to the toilet and due to his obesity, when he sits on the commode, the commode breaks into pieces. Now even this shameful and pathetic situation will become a case of deep interest and termed as an act of subversion. When non-Muslims commit horrible crimes, that is termed as a loner, mentally unfit, depressed, jobless, homeless but not for a Muslim. See the Colorado murderer: he is now being called as a mentally sick. But his profiles speak otherwise. How can a person so meritorious, studying at the highest seats of learning on earth, having memberships with very much prestigious bodies, a cross country runner and footballer, coming from a respected family be mentally unfit? Is not that a proof of your sheer hypocrisy and cruel joke? When the fatherfucken Robert Bales murdered innocent Afghans, he was termed mentally unfit as well. More justification came for this American bastard: he saw his accomplices being killed on battlefield. He saw his accomplices’ legs being blown up on battlefield. If so, why not those who attack US, US allies and their interests be termed as mentally unfit and therefore be released/freed/exempted? Afterall, they also have seen and continue to see their loved ones being killed, mutilated, paralysed, erased, evicted. Have the US and Co. grown so impotent/senile that they now select mentally unfit people to important duties?

  18. Anon,

    I don’t know who Fabrice del Dongo is. I have heard from you about him for the first time. However, I can assure you that I am not related to him. Why? Because, this person may be from Spain/Italy and hence an Aryan. I am not an Aryan, but a Dravidian.

  19. Dongo, how many of the persons you mentioned above committed their acts in the name of god and their religion?

  20. Anon,
    You sure know how to lie. Let me point it out to everyone.

    So you don’t like Indians, Dongo? You want to massacre them?

    Dongo’s comment:
    Indians have not just deeply infected those places with their bullshit, third-rated and racist culture, but taken over them as well.

    I don’t see any difference between your comments on Muslims than his comments on racist,bigoted Indians.
    I guess what you are trying to tell everyone is that you want to kill Muslims.

  21. Anonm,
    Poison and hypocrisy from your mouth.

    “Dongo, everyone has a long history of deception, greed, racism, murder and limitless sex. The best humanity can do is try to maintain order and not fall into total war.

    You seem to be extremely irritated at various groups.”

    But just b4 you are all like:
    I do not agree with a lot of things going on in the Muslim world but I do not like to see any group of people being treated badly.

    “What i have read on other sites is that muslims are pouring into various areas, taking them over, killing the locals. Hm, what’s not to like?”

    so obviously your hypocrisy shows through the lines. Why not bother to look at Israel? Oppression against Muslims for over 60 years, but I don’t hear you condemning the Jews. Why? Cuz America supports them. What happened to “not wanting to see any group of people being treated badly? Why mention Muslims invading other countries when America helped fund weapons to Zionists to violently take over the country of Palestine? When the American government does it you look the other way pretending to be blind, when Saudi oppresses people, your eagle eyes get all focused. Duh, any educated Muslims would recognize the oppression of their country. But the Saudi throne is supported by the US.

    We shouldn’t support Saudi in the first place. Same way we shouldn’t have put into power and supported Saddam or Mubarak. Don’t give them weapons, don’t form alliances with them. If you wanna get all self righteous thats your choice, but hey, try to keep your answers consistent.

  22. Criley,

    How many do you want to listen about?

  23. A Harvard study says there is no difference between Aryan and Dravidian DNA, blood, etc.

    I thought maybe Dongo was your nom de plume from Charterhouse of Parma.

  24. More blood studies say the Pals have a bit of African blood, the Jews don’t, they are from farther north.

  25. Dongo, I was just stating the difference. When someone commits a crime using religion as their standard it is looked upon differently from people who simply commit a crime for whatever reason they commit it. The one using religion is attempting to justify their actions.

  26. Anon,
    The majority of Jews in Israel today are not really from the tribe of Israel, they came from the northern countries of Russia after living centuries away from their homelands and mingling with the local populations so of course the majority of DNA tests will not be accurate. Same with the Palestinians. They are actually the descendants of the Cannites, Levites, Samaritans, etc. Africa? Don’t know where you get your info.

  27. Oh wait, then again, if I recall, all people’s DNA can be traced back to Africa.

  28. Some group is doing a study on the DNA of various tribes. You’re right about Africa, but maybe they don’t count it unless it is a certain %.

  29. One theory is the Jews are the Sumerians or Samites. Supposed to be pieces of Ecclesiastes in Gilgamesh.

  30. Karl,

    You are absolutely wrong. The Rohingyas are not Bengalees. We Bangladeshis have similar cultural elements shared with Sri Lankans, Makran region of Pakistan, West Bengal, southern Indian Tamils, Yemenis, and some African countries. Do you think that these countries will ever allow us to lay claim on themselves or allow us to migrate to their lands just on the basis of shared cultural similarities?

    I see no problem but you discovering the alleged problem for me. Muslims never claimed to realise that the lands they oocupied contained people to be their forgotten brethren. And Islam did not spread by sword always. As far as Indonesia and Mindanao are concerned, spreading Islam by sword is three much out of question. Islam spread there by traders and preachers. Instead, it is the Celto-Germanic-Moorish bastard, motherfucker-fatherfucken Spaniards and the Saxo-Gaulic Dutch pigs who introduced Christianity in those places, of course by sword.

    So, it really helps me to blame history.

  31. Anon,

    I never heard of that house. But I am not an Aryan; I have black hair, eyes and a short to medium stature which automatically disqualify me from being an Aryan. I am lucky to be a Dravidian.

    Wait a bit to be busted with your “Harvardian” claim because you did not tell the full version. I am giving it:

    Aryan-Dravidian divide a myth: Study

    HYDERABAD: The great Indian divide along north-south lines now stands blurred. A pathbreaking study by Harvard and indigenous researchers on ancestral Indian populations says there is a genetic relationship between all Indians and more importantly, the hitherto believed “fact” that Aryans and Dravidians signify the ancestry of north and south Indians might after all, be a myth.

    “This paper rewrites history… there is no north-south divide,” Lalji Singh, former director of the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB) and a co-author of the study, said at a press conference here on Thursday.

    Senior CCMB scientist Kumarasamy Thangarajan said there was no truth to the Aryan-Dravidian theory as they came hundreds or thousands of years after the ancestral north and south Indians had settled in India.

    The study analysed 500,000 genetic markers across the genomes of 132 individuals from 25 diverse groups from 13 states. All the individuals were from six-language families and traditionally “upper” and “lower” castes and tribal groups. “The genetics proves that castes grew directly out of tribe-like organizations during the formation of the Indian society,” the study said. Thangarajan noted that it was impossible to distinguish between castes and tribes since their genetics proved they were not systematically different.

    The study was conducted by CCMB scientists in collaboration with researchers at Harvard Medical School,

    Harvard School of Public Health and the Broad Institute of Harvard and MIT. It reveals that the present-day Indian population is a mix of ancient north and south bearing the genomic contributions from two distinct ancestral populations – the Ancestral North Indian (ANI) and the Ancestral South Indian (ASI). “The initial settlement took place 65,000 years ago in the Andamans and in ancient south India around the same time, which led to population growth in this part,” said Thangarajan. He added, “At a later stage, 40,000 years ago, the ancient north Indians emerged which in turn led to rise in numbers here. But at some point of time, the ancient north and the ancient south mixed, giving birth to a different set of population. And that is the population which exists now and there is a genetic relationship between the population within India.”

    The study also helps understand why the incidence of genetic diseases among Indians is different from the rest of the world. Singh said that 70% of Indians were burdened with genetic disorders and the study could help answer why certain conditions restricted themselves to one population. For instance, breast cancer among Parsi women, motor neuron diseases among residents of Tirupati and Chittoor, or sickle cell anaemia among certain tribes in central India and the North-East can now be understood better, said researchers.

    The researchers, who are now keen on exploring whether Eurasians descended from ANI, find in their study that ANIs are related to western Eurasians, while the ASIs do not share any similarity with any other population across the world. However, researchers said there was no scientific proof of whether Indians went to Europe first or the other way round.

    Migratory route of Africans

    Between 135,000 and 75,000 years ago, the East-African droughts shrunk the water volume of the lake Malawi by at least 95%, causing migration out of Africa. Which route did they take? Researchers say their study of the tribes of Andaman and Nicobar islands using complete mitochondrial DNA sequences and its comparison those of world populations has led to the theory of a “southern coastal route” of migration from East Africa through India.

    (Times of India, 25 September, 2009)

    Just take a look at these lines: “The initial settlement took place 65,000 years ago in the Andamans and in ancient south India around the same time, which led to population growth in this part,” said Thangarajan. He added, “At a later stage, 40,000 years ago, the ancient north Indians emerged which in turn led to rise in numbers here. But at some point of time, the ancient north and the ancient south mixed, giving birth to a different set of population. And that is the population which exists now and there is a genetic relationship between the population within India.”

    Satisfied?

  32. I always thought of India as older than Europe.

  33. Anon,

    You are right to think so. In terms of civilisation, India is much older. But that civilisation did not belong to or was not founded by Europoids. It was founded by black people of the Middle East and Africa.

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