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Turban Campaign: Now Is The Time To Unite Against Racists, Fascists and Islamophobes

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Turban Campaign: Now Is The Time To Unite Against Racists, Fascists and Islamophobes

Following the tragic events earlier this week at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin which lead to the murder of six people in an attack orchestrated by a member of a neo-Nazi group, messages of support have poured in from across the globe with prominent figures travelling to the Gurdwara (Sikh Temple) in solidarity.

This week also saw Barack Obama, the first Black President of the United States issue a proclamation for all American flags to fly at half mast in show of respect. Civil-rights activist, Rev. Jesse Jackson also visited the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin to assist with painting the Gurdwara. Speaking to the sons of the slain Oak Creek Gurdwara President, Rev. Jackson said: “You are not a minority but a moral majority.”

Across the globes candlelight vigils have been organised in rememberance of the victims with strong attendance from all faith groups and members of the wider community. The American Muslim community has been particularly vocal in sharing the grief and standing shoulder to shoulder with the Sikh community in what the American media has termed an incident involving mistaken identity.Several voices from within both communities have come out to condemn irresponsible journalism for trying to allude that the Muslim community is responsible for the actions of long ignored far-right neo-Nazi extremism.

In the United Kingdom, Co-founder of the Turban Campaign, Varinder Singh contributed to the Guardian newspaper saying: “Racism has always existed, but certainly September 11 didn’t help. It created a suspicion of the Sikh community, particularly because of the appearance of the male members. Inevitably that leads to physical and verbal attacks, but I think the recent attacks in America are a step beyond that.

That was deliberate and I think the argument of mistaken identity can’t really be used here – there were big signs outside saying ‘Sikh temple’. I think a general hatred has developed. Islamophobia is rife and applies to everyone of colour, regardless of religious background. In the eyes of people who wish to hate or belong to fascist organisations you are the enemy and seen as a potential target.

In this country, there is a lot of emphasis placed on extremism in certain corners of the Muslim community, however the government and councils tend to overlook far-right organisations such as the English Defence League.”

He further added: “When we see groups such as the EDL try to align themselves with the Sikh community, it’s a relationship that can’t last. This is a move to isolate the Muslim community who need our support [in tackling Islamophobia].”


Above: Muslim women stand in solidarity with the Sikh community

Above: Muslim brothers and sisters pray in the Sikh temple prior to breaking fast at the Palatine Candlelight vigil.

Recognising the unsubstantiated and misleading reporting by the major news agencies, music producer Kanwar Anit Singh Saini better known by stage name ‘Sikh Knowledge’ tweeted:

I will not distinguish my self from a muslim because I won’t abandon any one person as a target in the face of racist attitudes. Im a person

An excellent contribution was also made by commentator Jai Singh on Loonwatch.com, a website which routinely exposes far -right groups, in which he wrote:

Speaking as a Sikh, I’d like to thank everyone reading this who has sincerely expressed condolences and admiration for the Sikh community after this terrible event.

However, some people (on various online comments threads and elsewhere) are also obviously exploiting this tragedy to caricature & attack Islam and Muslims yet again. It’s therefore worth clarifying Sikhism’s actual stance on this subject, which is very different to the toxic message that these so-called “Friends of Sikhs & Sikhism / opponents of Muslims & Islam” are trying to promote.

For example, these verses from page 141 of the Sikh scriptures, the Guru Granth Sahib, clearly state how highly Sikhism esteems a true Muslim:

“It is difficult to be called a Muslim; if one is truly a Muslim, then he may be called one. First, let him savour the religion of the Prophet as sweet; then, let his pride of his possessions be scraped away. Becoming a true Muslim, a disciple of the faith of Mohammed, let him put aside the delusion of death and life. As he submits to God’s Will, and surrenders to the Creator, he is rid of selfishness and conceit. And when, O Nanak, he is merciful to all beings, only then shall he be called a Muslim.”

The final version of the Guru Granth Sahib was compiled by the 10th Sikh Guru, Gobind Singh.

The following verses from Guru Gobind Singh’s own writings, in this case known as the Akal Ustat, make Sikhism’s stance explicitly clear too; they also emphasise the importance of recognising our common identity as human beings:

“Someone calls himself a Hindu, another a Turk, someone a Shia, another a Sunni. Recognise the whole of humanity as one race…..He the One is the only God of us all: it is His Form, His Light that is diffused in all…..The temple or the mosque are the same, the Hindu worship or the Muslim prayer are the same; all humans are the same, it is through error they appear different…..it is the one God who created all. The Hindu God and the Muslim God are the same; let no man even by mistake suppose there is a difference.”

This is why the founders of Sikhism — the Sikh Gurus — deliberately included hymns & religious poetry by saints from multiple faiths when compiling our sacred scriptures, including hundreds of verses by Muslim saints; similarly, the scriptures also repeatedly use Islamic (as well as Sikh and Hindu) names for God. Even the foundation stone of the Golden Temple in Amritsar was laid by a Muslim saint upon the invitation of the Sikh Guru at the time, and one of the later Sikh Gurus also had a mosque built for Muslims who’d settled in the town he’d founded. Several Sikh Gurus (including Guru Gobind Singh) also provided military support to Muslim princes during imperial wars of succession.

The powerful message encapsulated by the verses I’ve quoted — and indeed by the lives of the Sikh Gurus themselves — is anathema to racists and the kind of people who are opportunistically exploiting this terrible tragedy as another stick with which to beat Muslims. All I can say to such individuals is the following: If you’re going to take anything positive from recent events, understand Sikhism’s message of the inherent unity & equality of mankind and (if you’re spiritually inclined) the divine light in all people as God’s children, regardless of religion or race.

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  1. Will this campaign group also he holding vigils for the Shi’tes murdered by islamophobes in Pakistan this week?

  2. jane,

    you would have vigil fatigue if you tried to hold a vigil every time muslims kill each other en masse.

    “This is why the founders of Sikhism — the Sikh Gurus — deliberately included hymns & religious poetry by saints from multiple faiths when compiling our sacred scriptures,” sounds like blasphemy to me? don’t they know there is only one “truth”. don’t be bringing in other prophets other than the abrahamics. and muhammad is the last. who are these sikh gurus?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh_gurus

    alrightly then….

  3. They should have t shirts saying “we are all shia” or “we are all ahmadis”

  4. We are all Copts! By all means let’s get some t shirts.

  5. Interesting site – sikhs are wrong, apparently

    http://www.islam-sikhism.info/index.htm

  6. http://www.islam-sikhism.info/about.htm

    “As Muslims we believe that “the only religion acceptable to Allaah is Islaam” (Qur’an 3:19), and that “whoever follows a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted from him and in the hereafter he shall be from amongst the losers” (Qur’an 3:85). [1] Hence, we have been instructed to invite mankind to this singular truth, which is the purpose behind the establishment of this website.” so much for tolerance? i guess i should my “the truth” to “singular truth”. funny that muslims call others closed minded?

    “beautiful religion of justice” i guess that’s a matter of opinion? lash the fornicators. stone the adulterers, lash the drinkers. how about “the religion of torture”?

    “And to debate in the way that is best.” that’s hilarious.

  7. [3.19] Surely the (true) religion with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning.

    [3.85] And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.

    guess those dead sikhs are losers. maybe that should be put on the t-shirts?

  8. Unite for peac….

  9. Investigate for the roots..where does it start?

  10. Racism and racists are threat to humanity…
    Respect one’s Freedom of Religion.

  11. Misleading is very crusial….

  12. The american muslim site is raving that the sunni shia conflict must stop.

  13. Those Russian/Ukrainian protest girls are wearing crowns of flowers, long hair and are naked to the waist. They look like ancient slav goddesses of the forest and stream.

    Putin, who fancies himself another Arnold S, was shown recently naked to the waist, wearing a cross, while carrying a gun and walking through a field.

    Lenin and Stalin rolling in their graves.

  14. When will you guys get it??? The ‘good’ muslims, like these girls donning these shirts, represent the MAJORITY of muslims. It’s true that we believe that the only religion that will be accepted by God is Islam. But have you ever taken a class about what ‘islam’ is? It is submission to the creator and living a life, out of gratitude to him, that pleases him. There are Christians that do this, Sikhs that do this, Hindus that do this, Buddhists, etc. You will be hard pressed to find a muslim that would say that sikhs are losers and going to hell because no one can determine the ranks of people or their final destination except for God himself. Obviously I am muslim, and I don’t know a single muslim (either here or abroad) who supports any of the violence being perpetrated by ‘muslims’ in the name of Islam. The majority of us love peace…peace with our neighbors….peace with other religions…peace with our creator. So please stop making fun of us and associating us with monsters when we’re good people just like you. And may God guide us all. ~

  15. Where is the solidarity over the persecution of the Copts and other Christian minorities?

  16. Here is an interesting story about the Muslim Brotherhood starting crucifixons in Egypt. According to the story the Brotherhood cannot rule out using crucifixions as a punishment as it is required in Sharia.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spring-run-amok-brotherhood-starts-crucifixions/

    How many Muslims are going to start wearing shirts stating “We are Copts” once the killing goes into full swing.

  17. I want to follow up on my previous comment. I decided to research this story a little closer and it was picked up by a large number of publications but no major news outlets including the BBC. It could be that I will regret posting that comment as now I am not sure it is true. I got upset when I read it and I think I should have waited. If it is true it is a terrible story, but it seems to be a single story picked up by numerous blogs and online papers.

  18. criley401, a member of the eqyptian fatwa council has recently stated that people have the right to murder anybody who protests against Morsi

  19. The story of Uthman Ebn Affan … Happy Eid

    http://muslim-academy.com/othman-ebn-affan-6/

  20. jane,

    i think we should get into the t-shirt business. how about a “vigil” package? a t-shirt, a candle, and a list of those killed. you handle europe and i’ll take america. we’ll get dongo to cover the sub-continent. that should be the big market. oh wait, my bad. when muslims kill muslims there is no vigil. too regular of an ocurrance.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19304805

  21. ccc,

    i doubt they would do that. even the iranians usally back off stoning people do to international pressure. but i guess you never know. some people think the koran is perfection, and that it’s “god’s law”. and it should be implemented at all costs.

    http://pewresearch.org/databank/dailynumber/?NumberID=1184

    and it is egypt.

    hasim,

    what do you think? “god’s law” right?

  22. The news from India is really wild. Coming to a society near you!

    In the end the muslims are going to be slaughtered en masse as in Gujarat by all the rest of us. Nobody can tolerate this uproar indefinitely.

  23. The rest of us will be left with no alternative. People proclaiming from the pulpits of their religion that it is right and good to slaughter this or that group are going to be slaughtered themselves. The only way to stamp out that attitude is to serve them the same way.

  24. anon,

    “The only way to stamp out that attitude is to serve them the same way.”
    are you insane? you know you can fight fire with water. western ideals are actually winning out. muslims in the west are no where near as radical as the muslims in the rest of the world. assimulation is the answer. not driving them out of town with torches and pitchforks.

    let me tell you a little story, about a man named jed, a poor moutainier who barely kept his family feed….jk.

    when the iranian hostage crisis happened, my social studies teacher said there where 15,000 iranian student in american colleges. and that we should take them all hostage. i went home and repeated that to my mother. mom did the ole hand on my shoulder and shook her head in disappointment. then she said, we can’t lower ourselves to their level.

    it is unfortunate that the wahabbist/salafist are gaining traction in much of the world. that the afgans allowed the taliban to rise to power. that some muslims are calling for the annialation of the west, the return of the caliphate. holy shit, maybe you’re right. i don’t know? too drunk to worry about it. but maybe we can give them 25 or 30 years to see who wins out within the muslim world. i got another iranian hostage crisis story for ya. i asked my dad if we needed to worry about them invading us. he said don’t worry, the muslims hate each other more than they hate us. but then again al-qaeda managed to rally some muslims to focus their ire on us. i guess things can change.

    but we should maintain the higher ground. no need for fire yet.

  25. It is probably true that in the end their own violent idiocy will do them in, but in the meantime they are going to cause a lot of havoc and due to the mobility of this world, it will not be all in their own backyard.

    At least cut them off, maybe if they have to stay where they are they can improve. Or maybe they will just kill each other off. Any riots here on the scale of France or India are quite likely sooner or later. It is what they do. What disgusting reading it makes.

    They dare to come here and give us little lectures on tolerance.

    I keep in mind that you are the man getting between a pimp and his lady in Ybor at 3 am.

  26. I wonder if Carter had taken hostages would they have killed our people. I read that it damaged them diplomatically, people would not treat with them.

    People fleeing their provinces in India, they should make a stand and do a Gujurat. Posters were calling for another Gujarat, for after that horror the muslims lay low for a while.

  27. “They dare to come here and give us little lectures on tolerance.” that is always funny. but we do have much room for improvement. and others do have a lot more room. what is really funny is their love of the word hypocrisy. and ignorance.

    but if i can find someone in the middleast who can print t-shirts in 8 hours, i’m going to make millions on this vigil package idea.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19306558

  28. Mike, make sure you do a “weare atheists” t-shirt too – the hate speech against atheists is very loud

    http://www.secularism.org.uk/93039.html

  29. isn’t it the muslims who are fleeing, bangalore and new delhi? 300,000? but it is strange that pretty much everywhere in the world muslim are, they can’t get along with others. i think many would have been held back in kindergarten. does not play well with others.

    http://islamqa.info/en/ref/59879

  30. It is mainstream, it’s not just a psycho here and there, it is coming out of their mosques, they are lead by violent leaders. They wonder why people don’t want mosques.

    Muslims are threatening people elsewhere in India, that old collective guilt/blame thing, like kill the nun or the aid worker they are of the West. They kill by group affiliation. They are tribal. I begin to think Geller is right. They are savages.

  31. jane,

    i doubt those will sell. maybe i’ll have gross of them made up just in case. but i’ll store them way in the back with the “we’are all polytheist” or “we’are all hindus”. was abdullah wearing a shirt saying “we’are all shinto”. strange place to make such a statement.
    “Abdullah told delegates to a seminar on “Dialogue Among Civilizations between Japan and the Islamic World,” he does know the japanese are mostly ancestral whorshipers? lol.

  32. They are cuddling up to Japan because they can’t grasp the history of ww2. Haha Japan would have cut all their throats.

    A moment of clarification does come for some people. They are in the middle of yow yow oo oo down at the mosque and suddenly say to themselves: this is a crock! and a violent crock, too. They may be too frightened to leave openly, but their hearts take wing…

  33. i agree, “They kill by group affiliation. They are tribal.” it isn’t just a few fringe people either. their violence is vast and wide. from the southern philippines to morocco. from america to holland.

    but most of the world is still tribal. sad as that sounds.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-19292570

  34. In addition to showing the flaming Tibetan man they were showing assorted pics of other disaster/crime victims even Chinese, and claiming they were muslim victims. They would say/do anything to get the mob going, that is the caliber of their religious leaders. So now they are rioting and menacing and crowds fleeing, no confidence in gov protection, small wonder.

    The police and govs are clueless. Why didn’t they cope with the Rohingya thing before now.

    The other pip is the riot in the Indian Suzuki plant. I wonder if Honda in Alabama has that sort of problem.

    That link from Kahn you posted – he would be speared for being too moderate and sensible.

  35. I think what is getting my goat is that the so called religious leaders never seem to work at calming things down, but instead make it hotter and worse I suppose to “show muslim power”. What loathsome thinking. It deserves whatever it gets.

  36. i think here in canada our sikh politicians ar missing an important opportunity to ask media to stop the incitement…sun news is so racist…a croatian said if this was allowed in former yugoslavia everyone would be at each others necks killing each other!!!

  37. bikaz,

    great link. truely hilarious.

    “However, in some cases a husband may use some light disciplinary action in order to correct the moral infraction of his wife, but this is only applicable in extreme cases and it should be resorted to if one is sure it would improve the situation. However, if there is a fear that it might worsen the relationship or may wreak havoc on him or the family, then he should avoid it completely.”

    so if you think hitting your wife might “wreak havoc”? “one is sure it would improve the situation” lmao. guess the husband better be a psychiatrist? i’m going to hit this bitch. wait that might make the situation worse? lmfao. no wait she is pretty submissive. i am going to hit her, lightly of course. lmfaoa.

    “Treat women kindly, they are captives in your houses,” yeah don’t let them out of the house. don’t let them drive.

    “The Qur’an is very clear on this issue.” really. have you even read the koran? it’s clear on nothing.

    i don’t remember seeing the word “lightly” in the entire koran?

    sounds like the husband is the judge. strange hasim said that men can’t judge. only god can judge?????????/ ya’ll baffle me.

    [4.33] And to every one We have appointed heirs of what parents and near relatives leave; and as to those with whom your rights hands have ratified agreements, give them their portion; surely Allah is a witness over all things.
    [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
    [4.35] And if you fear a breach between the two, then appoint judge from his people and a judge from her people; if they both desire agreement, Allah will effect harmony between them, surely Allah is Knowing, Aware.
    [4.36] And serve Allah and do not associate any thing with Him and be good to the parents and to the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the neighbor of (your) kin and the alien neighbor, and the companion in a journey and the wayfarer and those whom your right hands possess; surely Allah does not love him who is proud, boastful;

    where does it say lightly?

    “we should keep in mind that the original Arabic wording of the Qur’an is the only authentic source of meaning. If one relies on the translation alone, one is likely to misunderstand it. No translation of the Holy Quran can truly reproduce the majesty of the Arabic original.” always funny. yet it is the native arab speakers who seem to limit women’s rights the most. the saudis, must understand the koran the best. look to the arabs for guidance.

  38. bikaz,

    your culture is CLEARLY inconducive with western culture. plus how many people even speak arabic? a couple hundred million? at most?

  39. “I think what is getting my goat is that the so called religious leaders never seem to work at calming things down”

    Riots aren’t unknown after friday “prayers”

  40. Men shouldn’t beat their wives. Even the strongest man must sleep.

  41. easy lorena bobbit. gods and demons. holy scriptures, eternal damnation are all well and good. but now you’ve crossed the line.

  42. “a croatian said if this was allowed in former yugoslavia everyone would be at each others necks killing each other!!!” sure??? this is a news for my friends from Ex-Jugoslawien.

  43. A lot of Christians believe God commanded Christianity to be spread through out the world. Why is spreading Islam wrong while spreading Christianity is right?

  44. Um… because the Bible doesn’t teach that one should be killed if he refuses to convert?

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=382396585166346&set=a.295698470502825.72376.295420103863995&type=1&relevant_count=1

  45. If people who are against Islam are racists, then what race are they racist against, since Islam is not a race?

  46. Prank people – Borak, the Onion, the TV show in the link – can go jump in the lake. Who needs the extra confusion.

  47. Lila

    “When will you guys get it??? The ‘good’ muslims, like these girls donning these shirts, represent the MAJORITY of muslims.” you sure? so where are these girls? indonesia? iran? the middle east? north africa? i’ll lay dollars to doughnuts, well i guess that’s not the odds it used to be. i’ll give you 100 to 1 they are in a western nation. MAJORITY, again you sure.
    “It’s true that we believe that the only religion that will be accepted by God is Islam.” so those sikhs are in hell?
    “But have you ever taken a class about what ‘islam’ is?” yes. several. have you? who taught it. a “westernized” muslim? have you ever read the koran? how about the hadith?
    “It is submission to the creator and living a life, out of gratitude to him, that pleases him.” there might be a little more to it then that. is it not about implementing the creator’s will on earth. do you not belive that the hudud must be enforced? so why do muslim get upset why people propose laws to not allow sharia in american courts. as they say, the devil is in the details.
    “There are Christians that do this, Sikhs that do this, Hindus that do this, Buddhists, etc.” ok. so? deflection is always funny. but what does that have to do with the problem. you forgot to bring up the crusades.
    “You will be hard pressed to find a muslim that would say that sikhs are losers and going to hell because no one can determine the ranks of people or their final destination except for God himself.” again, you sure? so if i go to indonesia or pakistan muslims there will tell me that the sihks are in heaven. again have you read the koran. it clearly states that non-muslims are losers. see verse above. don’t you/muslims believe the koran to be perfection? are you saying the koran is wrong? [3.85] And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers. unlike much of the koran that seem pretty clear?
    “Obviously I am muslim, and I don’t know a single muslim (either here or abroad) who supports any of the violence being perpetrated by ‘muslims’ in the name of Islam.” because you don’t know them personally doesn’t mean they don’t exist. google anjem choundry, abu hamza, the islamic thinkers society of america, sami osmakac, the list goes on and on. check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UufTBjgEE5Q

    “The majority of us love peace…peace with our neighbors….peace with other religions…peace with our creator.” obviously, or else the entire world would be on fire. the problem is the the minority within your ranks is way to big. and instead of vigorously confronting them, you make excuses. christians, do it, there are bad people in all groups. etc. etc. what did your prophet jesus say, remove the log from you own eye before you worry about the specin your brother’s eye.
    “So please stop making fun of us and associating us with monsters when we’re good people just like you.” it is you who chooses to associate yourselves with others. don’t group yourselves with others and no one will ask you why the members of your group do what they do. sorry i don’t mean to insult you, but you sound very young? but i hope your fiqh wins out. as opposed to the ayatollahs or the muftis. please take “your” islam back to the “muslim” lands. not that i mean you should leave the west, but that i hope your brand of islam will spread. but i think you are shoveling against the tide.

    “And may God guide us all. ~” may reason and logic guide us all.

  48. Mike, the site is based on deflection. Don’t look at the minorities massacred by muslims,look at the pig’s legs thrown down here and be sorry. Very sorry, for you are the dhimmi and unworthy of life.

    The US could fall apart into groups killing each other. Murderous tribalism is a human norm.

    Mike, I admire your squidliness, but think your copy could do with some pruning and spacing.

  49. Lila, it doesn’t matter how good individuals are. The thing is bad, as Christianity was in the bad old days, and has to be fixed before there is a big kaboom.

  50. “Mike, I admire your squidliness, but think your copy could do with some pruning and spacing”

    sorry i don’t follow you at all? but i do like a good calamari.

  51. You use more ink than a squid.

  52. i’ll try to be more succinct.

  53. < ———————————-
    We throw acid in womens faces
    We hang gays
    We burn blasphemers
    We behead infidels
    We stone adulterers
    We promote paedophilia
    We behead sorcerors
    Sorcerors? Yup, that's right

    Come on, be reasonable, we're really not that bad…

  54. And we throw the best parties in town too. Everybody wants to join in
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19315210

  55. @Christian Faith. people who r NOT bigoted, prejudiced, or racists know that people who do all these evil acts u r listing above, only represent themselves and not the nation or the faith they happen to hold.

  56. Well that’s all nice and cosy. but what are you moderate muslims doing about it? fuck all! you know the islamists with more extreme ideas in your mosques, communities and families. you want more tolerance, FUCKING EARN IT. make their lives a misery. make it so they cant gather and plot and preach hate. Take responsibility and drive them out of your communities, bring in law-enforcement to deal with them. You’re lazy, irresponsible and cowardly. All you do is whinge about islamophobia when you’re the root cause, because you do nothing. If the world hates islam as a result of the extremists among you, you have only your selves to blame, because if you moderate muslims are in the majority, how can you blame the world for viewing you as anything but craven, complicit parasites waiting for the world to be offered to you on a plate by your extremist brothers?

  57. ahhh another ignorant idiot who thinks she/he know it all. well christian Faith, do look up the handful of potential terrorists caught in USA in past years, and let me know who called the authorities to report them. here is a hint, it was the moderate muslims. and you placing the blame on the peaceful muslims is as absurd as placing blame on all Christians for the child rapes.

  58. “Many Americans have suggested that more moderate Muslims should stand up to extremists, speak out for tolerance, and apologize for sins committed by their brethren.

    That’s reasonable advice, and as a moderate myself, I’m going to take it. (Throat clearing.) I hereby apologize to Muslims for the wave of bigotry and simple nuttiness that has lately been directed at you. The venom on the airwaves, equating Muslims with terrorists, should embarrass us more than you. Muslims are one of the last minorities in the United States that it is still possible to demean openly, and I apologize for the slurs.

    I’m sickened when I hear such gentle souls lumped in with Qaeda terrorists, and when I hear the faith they hold sacred excoriated and mocked. To them and to others smeared, I apologize.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/opinion/19kristof.html

  59. Oh Geee, another profile made 13 hours ago and magically found his way here. Made in that country called Islamophobia.

  60. In the two-minute video, which appears to be a portion taken from a longer sermon, Worley condemns Obama’s recent endorsement of gay marriage, and makes a shocking statement about homosexuals — that they should be placed inside of an electrified pen until they die off. Call his words mere hyperbole or pure hate — at the least, taken in the minimal context they’re presented in, they are stunning.http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pastor-get-rid-of-all-the-lesbians-queers-by-trapping-them-with-an-electric-fence-eventually-theyll-die-off/

  61. But wait! Christian Faith says Christians don’t hang gays? But clearly this Christian Pastor wants them dead. Christian Faith didn’t do anything to stand up to this guy and others like him to get them out of their churches, communities and families. So maybe he should take his own advise or is he too busy hating on us? If he is really a Christian which I have doubts about.

  62. “Many Americans have suggested that more moderate Muslims should stand up to extremists, speak out for tolerance, and apologize for sins committed by their brethren.

    That’s reasonable advice, and as a moderate myself, I’m going to take it. (Throat clearing.) I hereby apologize to Muslims for the wave of bigotry and simple nuttiness that has lately been directed at you. The venom on the airwaves, equating Muslims with terrorists, should embarrass us more than you. Muslims are one of the last minorities in the United States that it is still possible to demean openly, and I apologize for the slurs.

    I’m sickened when I hear such gentle souls lumped in with Qaeda terrorists, and when I hear the faith they hold sacred excoriated and mocked. To them and to others smeared, I apologize.” I’m truly sorry.

  63. “Many Americans have suggested that more moderate Muslims should stand up to extremists, speak out for tolerance, and apologize for sins committed by their brethren.

    That’s reasonable advice, and as a moderate myself, I’m going to take it. (Throat clearing.) I hereby apologize to Muslims for the wave of bigotry and simple nuttiness that has lately been directed at you. The venom on the airwaves, equating Muslims with terrorists, should embarrass us more than you. Muslims are one of the last minorities in the United States that it is still possible to demean openly, and I apologize for the slurs.

    I’m sickened when I hear such gentle souls lumped in with Qaeda terrorists, and when I hear the faith they hold sacred excoriated and mocked. To them and to others smeared, I apologize.” I’m truly sorry.

  64. Sikh gunman is not terrorist?
    He needs psychiatrist?
    Every religion has it’s extremist dude.

  65. Sikh gunman is not terrorist?
    He needs psychiatrist?
    Every religion has it’s extremist dude.

  66. Gordon, the counterparts to Worley and Terry Koran burner Jones are highly regarded Islamic scholars with hundreds of followers yelling death to whomever, and inciting mobs to lynch and destroy.

    Ignoring this is like saying just because you have no criminals in your immediate family the US has no crime problem.

    People say and do bad things everywhere. If the law stands above religion, those people are punished or marginalized. If religion has temporal power, it will go into a spiral of heretic hunting.

    I would like to say a word of thanks to those intrepid enough to defend the rule of law in places where it is worth your life to speak out.

  67. Because many muslims don’t seem to understand that theocracy is a bad idea and think it would be wonderful if muslims could put their foot on everyone’s neck including here in US, it is only a matter of time before they begin to replicate what goes on there, here.

    Then no one’s life will be worth a bean, here as well as there. We will all be Copts, indeed.

  68. Anon we will not be Copts. It is pretty clear those Copts do not own weapons because they should be fighting back quite a bit more than they do. I saw that photo of the group of Muslims sitting outside the house of the family of the girl they want to kill. I would have to be in my dotage, as would many others in the United States, to allow a scene like that to take place unmolested.

    Those Pakistani Muslims worry about Blasphemy. I personally believe that in the eyes of God they are the defining characteristic of it. I have never agreed with our interventions in this area of the world, but if the Copts ever start fighting back, I will be one of the first in line to start sending them money.

  69. Seems to me the only thing that ameliorates the condition of these people is the screaming meemies of the rest of the world who can put pressure on the muslim societies.

    Left to themselves they would freely butcher whomever, just as they did back in the oldie days. Now at least there are screams of opposition.

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