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Texas church urges Americans to ‘Vote for the Mormon, not the Muslim’

Texas church urges Americans to ‘Vote for the Mormon, not the Muslim’

A pastor is causing a commotion in his Texas town – and possibly hurting with his non-profit status – because of a politically motivated church marquee.


The sign was an obvious reference to President Barack Obama, who conservatives say is a secret Muslim even though he says he is a Christian and attends church with his family. He said in an August interview with a religious magazine that it’s not his job to convince people he’s Christian. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is a Mormon.

Pastor Ray Miller declined an interview with ABC affiliate KVUE but told the station the sign was his idea because he feels strongly about the election. He said this is not the first bold statement he has made on the marquee, which changes every week.

Since all churches and houses of worship are tax-exempt under federate law, they’re barred from participating in political campaign activity.

“They are permitted under the tax laws to engage in other political activities (e.g., distribute voter guides and invite candidates to speak at church functions) so long as such activity does not support or oppose a candidate,” a 2008 report on the subject reads.

As of 2002, however, the Internal Revenue Service reported that only two churches have ever lost non-profit status over campaign involvement.

ABC News, 20 October 2012


  1. Lol, i heard Obama is muslim.. America was the only place in world we thought is Free to speech.. We muslim prefer America coz its Liberty of speech and relegion.. Bt todays America is changed.

  2. Has it Malik? Muslims still go to the Mosque to pray. Muslims are free to write and publish as they will. It is true that due to problems within the Muslim community that Muslim are watched more closely as things tend to blow up or people get killed if they are not watched. Other than that nothing has changed. Can the same be said if Islamic Countries where Christians and members of other religions cannot build places of worship. Where they are arrested simply because they are not Muslim. Muslims get much more from the United States than they allow in any Muslim state you can name. One has to find individuals or small groups in the United States to find people who want to ban the worship of Islam. In the Islamic world one has to find individuals or small groups that will even entertain the idea of non Muslims worshiping according to their beliefs.

  3. Algeria, Turkey, Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo, Guinea are a few Muslim countries that grant full religious freedom to non-Muslims. That’s roughly 350,000,000, or almost a third, of Muslims off the top of my head, and almost half of Muslims living in Muslim-majority countries. And that’s just countries that have complete religious freedom. Countries such as Bangladesh, Malay, and Egypt have no actual laws restricting the rights of non-Muslims, but face some degree of non-official discrimination, about the level you would seen in, say, Europe against Muslims. That adds another Then we have nations like Morocco, Pakistan, and Iran, where non-Muslims are subject to certain restrictions, such as not being able to hold government positions, laws against proselytizing and apostasy, and discrimination on the part of the government, but still hold the public practice of non-Muslim religions legal and interfere very little in the affairs of non-Muslims. The vast majority of Muslim-majority nations fall in the above categories. Very few live in our worst case scenario countries, Saudi Arabia and Taliban-era Afghanistan. Those are the places where it is illegal to practice non-Muslim religions and where serious persecution can be expected. So no. You don’t have to find individuals or small groups to find people who will tolerate non-Muslims practicing their faith. There are entire nations of Muslims that have been doing so for decades.

  4. Algeria, Turkey, Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo, Guinea are a few Muslim countries that grant full religious freedom to non-Muslims

    Algeria Examples:
    December 16, 2010 Four Algerian Christians sentenced to Prison for opening a church without government authorization.
    April 26 2011 Two Algerian Christians may face up to five years in prison for proselytizing, a religious freedom group reported on Monday
    April 23 2012 An Algerian Christian was sentenced to five years in prison for “shaking the faith” of Muslims last May. Currently, “Kadar” is awaiting a decision on his appeal.
    Turkey Examples:
    Fact: Most Christians were forced out of Turkey after or during WWI so it solved a huge Christian problem by simply getting rid of them.
    Hakan Tastan and Turan Topal were arrested in October 2006 following charges that they had slandered Turkishness and Islam while talking about their faith with three young men in Silivri, a town about an hour’s drive west of Istanbul. They could be jailed for up to 2 years if found guilty of the charges. (Note these charges still had not been resolved as of 2010 I am not sure where they are now)
    Forum 18 listed a number of deadly attacks on Christians in recent years: The murder of Father Andrea Santoro, a Catholic priest in 2006; the killing of two ethnic Turkish Protestants, Necati Aydin and Ugur Yuksel, and a German, Tilmann Geske in Malatya in 2007. Then, in July 2009 a Catholic German businessman engaged to an ethnic Turk, Gregor Kerkeling, was murdered by a mentally disturbed young man for being a Christian.
    Among the causes of this intolerance the study cited the habitual disinformation and defamation against Christians, both in public discourse as well as in the media. As well, intolerance is actively promoted within the school curriculum
    April 2012 Christian clerics in Turkey have expressed their anxiety regarding the growing threats they face in wake of an attack against Pastor Semih Serkek of the Protestant “Lütuf” (“Grace”) Church in Istanbul’s Bahçelievler district on April 7.

    “Attacks against Christian clerics drop off for a while, then they begin to re-energize. [Such attacks] have begun to accelerate again in recent days
    Current in Turkey: Missionary activities are still considered a national threat, despite the existence of Turkish laws that guarantee citizens the freedom to teach and propagate their faith. In addition, Christian parents have reported that schools are not allowing them to withdraw their children from Islamic teaching, even though authorities, in principle, permit them to do so.

    October 15 2012: Puljic reportedly complained that while dozens of mosques were build in the Bosnian capital Sarajevo, no building permissions were given for Christian churches.

    “The cardinal already waits 13 years on permission to build just a small church,” Church in Need said. Authorities
    so far refused to return hundreds of nationalized church buildings, despite a ruling by the European Court of Human Rights to do so, according to Christian officials.

    Additionally tens of thousands of people, many of them Catholic Croats, have been prevented from returning home following the war, Church in Need said. These obstacles violate the Dayton peace accords that ended the 1992-1995 Bosnian War, which split the nation between a Serb republic and a Muslim-Croat federation.
    Did not find any
    see link: for destroyed churches
    Did not find any

    So a couple of the countries you mentioned do not seem to have any serious problems. For your follow up countries such as Morocco whose Clerics have called for the banishment of all Christians from its borders. Pakistan’s Muslims who will frame and attempt to kill 12 year old girls and eviscerate eleven year old Christian boys while they are still living. Say what you will but I think I will stand by my original comments.

  5. Mike you asked me about Gays and my opinion but the article has been removed from the cover so I will paste in the response you asked for.

    Mike you forget my past posts,(skip to the bottom if you want a more simplistic answer). I have nothing against gays except the lifestyle is sinful. I do not believe that Gays should be married in a religious wedding. I do support civil unions for a great number of reasons. I strongly support a secular society and my religious beliefs guide me and like minded people but they should not form a trough that all others must follow. My job, as a Christian is to talk to people and persuade them to accept Christ and follow Christian values. If two Gay people love each other and are partners, why should they not partake in the secular rewards of sharing insurance or being consulted in making medical decisions. I only disagree with the lifestyle not the people. As a Christian my belief is that God condemns acts but demands that his word be taught to deliver people from the consequences of those acts which can extend beyond our earthly lives.
    Religious values should influence society but not rule society. When you place a theocracy in power the people in charge may or may not be good people but in either case justifications will be made and lots of people will suffer and die by the hands of “Godly people” It can be Christian, Muslim, Hindu, it does not matter. Religious values must be nurtured in secular surroundings or things simply get out of hand.

    No, gay people are not possessed. Gay people may be gay because of environment or heredity. The reasons are not important. The importance is the human ability to decide on an act or actions regardless of how drawn we are too a particular decision. We are not lower functioning animals who operate on instinct. In the end it comes to I choose to drink that Liquor, I choose to smoke that joint, I choose to inject that heroin, I choose to have sex with that woman, I choose to have sex with that man, I choose to have one more piece of that cake. Predisposition is a strong factor in decision making but it is not the decision maker. We are responsible for our choices and the consequences of those choices.

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